Brinkmann vs TW Acustic


Was wondering how these two German manufacturers compare.
Bardo vs Raven One
Oasis vs Raven GT
LaGrange vs Raven AC
Is there a unique sound signature that goes up with the range? Which is a better value? (i.e. maybe the Oasis is better than the Raven AC)
Have heard both in show conditions, but could not pin-point their contribution to the end result as the rest of the system was unfamiliar as well.
iaxelrod
Hi,3 of my friends bought TW ACUSTIC tables after hearing my well set up table.These guys all Love there tables.
Downunder,

I am back to just the copper. But the reason is it sounds almost the same. On the AC I preferred the Living Voice.
Just wanted to explain my speed test. I have a Prism Orpheus AD-DA converter. I just play a test tone and zoom in to 1000 Hz (I think that is the frequency I am using) and watch it on the spectrum analyzer on the screen. The wave peak is centered on 1000 Hz. When I change the speed up or down it moves to 997 or 1003. It is easy enough to check wow & flutter and if the speed is set right. I don't know if the Cardas LP is perfect but that is what I use. It is spot on to the tolerance of the software I guess but you can see if you are off at all. One thing for sure you can hear the difference when you change the adjustment to being just off a touch. Very easy to hear. The weak link is that a turntable with switchable speed for 33 and 45 can never be as good as a dedicated motor & PS for each individually. And of course the belt. Funny no one has brought that up here as of yet.
I explained in a previous post how adjusting the motor controller for accurate speed by flipping its switch up or down very quickly, checking the KAB strobe for correctness and then using the other switch to lock in that speed got the job done for me. Yes, unfortunately the push button allowing for slight adjustments does not work. I hear no problems with the reproduction of voices or any number of different orchestral instruments. I also made adjustments with the tonearm and vta. Based on repeated listening, and affixing two pieces of printer's tape, one with an arrow mark on the flat portion of the vta dial and the other with a range of line markings on the stainless steel platform just beneath the vta dial of my TW 10.5 tonearm, I was able to obtain repeatable settings for various thicknesses of records. It has worked beautifully. The feet for my Raven One table are TW's own. I've used neither a record mat nor a separate isolation platform. There's only a solid concrete floor with carpet on it and my Just-A-Rack (no longer in business as far as I know) stand. I feel fortunate to have my music and sound just the way I want it. I hope some of what I've said regarding my setup might help any number of those who have had problems.