Michael Fremer's record cleaning process....

Slaw: with due respect, the older I have gotten, the less I believe that there is "one best" anything- writer, cleaning method, record, etc. (Frogman did you a solid in response to your 'extraordinary recordings thread' in a somewhat similar vein). FWIW, you refer to MFremer in the third person in your last post, when 'Grooves' who directly addressed some of your comments immediately above, is M Fremer. Perhaps you didn't know that.....

About 18 or so years ago, I popped in the Joule Electra/Merlin room @ CES. Michael was in there, and pulled out the 45rpm Stairway to Heaven. It was pretty incredible sounding, and of course I bought the Classic 200 gram box, which came with 45. I already had all the Classics in 180 gram, but I just had to have that 45. He was such a humble guy, and he truly keeps the vinyl torch lit. Let's face it, guys like Michael and Chad truly make a difference. Very cool stuff guys, and please keep it up. Cheers -Don

Michael Fremer's tutorials basically say "this is how I do it".
I see no problem and appreciate having him. He is a big help to all of us.

Whart: To begin with, I made my latest comment in advance of when "Grooves" comment posted, so as usual, Audiogon's timimg is off.

I am a proponent of discovering, all things analog for one's-self. I really didn't find that Grooves comments in any way differentiated with mine. Regarding Frogman doing me a "solid", you'll have to address your inference to him. I do think he makes a valid point that otherwise is forgotten. This, in no way affects/affected my decision to keep 'El Camino" on my list of Extraordinary Recordings On Vinyl". (deluxe version). In fact, if you'd had an issue with it, I would have been glad to address that at the appropriate time. Since you waited until a later/different post to bring it up, I must assume there is another issue on your mind.

I have wondered and find it somewhat odd that when I post anything recently that Qdrone responds to, you are there with a response. Any connection?

Since you brought up Frogman's (solid), I feel that I have a precident as well.

I think a major point to bring up here is Grooves recommendation of ( The Beatles Mono Box, "Revolver". I find it to be the lesser, sonically of say SGT. Peppers, or MMT. Of coarse I don't have a mono cart. The soundstage is closed in by comparison. We surely can discuss it further. If then I'm pointed out to be wrong, I'll ADMIT IT! ( unlike others here).

Whart: Since you brought it up, can you explain from your own experience, (your) reasoning for (your obvious different conclusion) to the Black Keys "El Camino" , original pressing vs the deluxe pressing and how you seem to arrive at your this conclusion given the state of our hobby/analog/digital vs what's currently out there for our consumsion?