Mrtennis essentially states that without proof, there is no knowledge, only opinion. But in the big picture, much of what we all personally consider knowledge is not proven until we too witness and experience if for ourselves.
I "know" that Canberra is the capital of Australia. But how do I really know that Australia even exists? I have not been there. Many people claim it is a continent in the southern hemisphere which I must take as faith. And since I have not witnessed its existence, is my "knowledge" of this indeed not knowledge? In my opinion, Australia exists but I do not know for sure. And even when my plane lands there, how do I still know I am in Australia? My weeklong trek across the Australian desert in a jeep may have in fact been through the California and Nevada deserts. Life is one huge box of faith.
What defines the line between opinion and knowledge and thus fact? Clearly we have a group here that continues to profess that we can not base our knowledge on what we hear. So what do we use to substantiate out claims? Our eyesight? If I alternate between power cables A and B, and repeatedly take measurements through various tests, compare the charts/plots etc., and can visually verify that cable A always has a higher peak than cable B and frequency X, and so on, then can I deduce from these efforts that I now have knowledge that there is truly a difference? But why do I only trust what my eyes tell me and not what my ears told me before? And if it is not a sight vs. sound issue, then it comes down to needing the test equipment to provide the basis for knowledge rather than my own senses.
As I tried to infer before, even when our senses tell us that differences exist, we may be a long ways off from identifying why they do exist. And as an engineer, I too want to know the how and why of everything around me. But this is simply not realistic.
I "know" that Canberra is the capital of Australia. But how do I really know that Australia even exists? I have not been there. Many people claim it is a continent in the southern hemisphere which I must take as faith. And since I have not witnessed its existence, is my "knowledge" of this indeed not knowledge? In my opinion, Australia exists but I do not know for sure. And even when my plane lands there, how do I still know I am in Australia? My weeklong trek across the Australian desert in a jeep may have in fact been through the California and Nevada deserts. Life is one huge box of faith.
What defines the line between opinion and knowledge and thus fact? Clearly we have a group here that continues to profess that we can not base our knowledge on what we hear. So what do we use to substantiate out claims? Our eyesight? If I alternate between power cables A and B, and repeatedly take measurements through various tests, compare the charts/plots etc., and can visually verify that cable A always has a higher peak than cable B and frequency X, and so on, then can I deduce from these efforts that I now have knowledge that there is truly a difference? But why do I only trust what my eyes tell me and not what my ears told me before? And if it is not a sight vs. sound issue, then it comes down to needing the test equipment to provide the basis for knowledge rather than my own senses.
As I tried to infer before, even when our senses tell us that differences exist, we may be a long ways off from identifying why they do exist. And as an engineer, I too want to know the how and why of everything around me. But this is simply not realistic.