An Informal Assessment of Anti Cables


My experience with Anti Cable speaker cables surprised me and I though others may want to read about what I found to be a very good speaker cable.

I will do this somewhat briefly and forego the typical audiophile jargon. The Anti Cables are better than what I was using, which were custom shotgun runs of Kimber 4TC (four sets of 4TC cables per speaker; one double shotgun pair for the top and another double shotgun pair on for the bottom; each shotgun pair were twisted together – three twists per foot, and the two shotgun pairs were then twisted together – three twists per foot, to complete one set).

I always found the Kimber setup to be very pleasing, but here’s what I heard with the Anti Cables in place: a very noticeable increase in upper-mid-range and upper frequency resolution (“clarity” if you will). Here is a “tangible” example of what I heard: on the excellent Blue Coast Records’ live acoustic recording by Keith Greeniger (the song titled “Three Little Birds” – an old Bob Marley tune) the recording captures a conversation between Keith and another musician prior to the beginning of the song, in which that other musician yells to Cookie Marenco, the producer. “Are you ready Cookie?” Until I installed the Anti Cables, I was not aware that Cookie is a woman. With the Kimber in place, I could barely hear a response (and only when I really cranked the volume). What I could barely hear was completely inaudible (buried way in the background). With the Anti Cables in place, I could clearly hear Cookie’s response and by golly, Cookie is a woman!

If you have this recording and you can clearly hear (Ms) Marenco respond, then you already have a pretty revealing system (how’s that for science!). For me, this was really cool, because it was “clearly” measurable; it was instantly “tangible.” Now, I was somewhat excited, so I delved into a whole slew of my favorite recordings. The increased clarity and resolution in the mid-range and upper-frequencies made my music sound…well, clearer and more resolved (how else can I say it).

There is a noticeable decrease in what I would deem bass energy, which at first concerned me. Upon further listening, I feel that the bass is simply more refined (tighter if you will). I will experiment with the setup to determine whether, or not, I am utilizing the best termination solution.

Paul sent me what he considers to be his best method, which he calls a set of shotgun parallel bi-wired cables. If you read my other thread about parallel bi-wiring, you know that I was not only confused, but concerned that Paul had sent me the wrong setup. What I have now is two sets of Anti Cables per speaker, but they’re setup differently from what I consider a typical “bi-wired” run. Here, both sets of cables are twisted together (the single run, which comprises two cables, is twisted – three turns per foot; and then each of the twisted pairs are twisted together – three turns per foot – very similar to what I had arranged with the Kimber). This double shotgun run terminates at the speaker end in just one set of spades, which I have hooked to each speaker’s upper frequency binding posts; a set of Anti Cable jumpers are then used to “jump” the low frequency binding posts.

My experiment will be to go directly to the low frequency posts and then jump to the upper frequency posts. Anyway, the point is that I can really hear a significant improvement in clarity and resolution, which is exactly what my speakers needed. I was ready to get rid of my Resolution II’s in favor of the new Maggie 1.7s, but now I might just have to rethink that move.

Thought this might be helpful to those who have ever wondered about Anti cables…
2chnlben
LOL, yes, I am a woman! You've uncovered my secret!!!

We build our own cables which is a silver copper alloy from Jean Marie Reynaud that we modify for our purposes. They sounds incredible. It's used for all our microphones and speaker wiring. I never realized my voice was disguised for some on that recording.

We were considering cutting that intro off for the next Collection, but, since it's being used for testing, well, IT STAYS!

thanks, all
cookie
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I am using Anti-Cables with Vandersteen 5A's. When I was experimenting with the speaker cables, I found that (for my system anyway) twisting the cables closed in the sound somewhat. With the Vandersteen's, I also have 4 cables to each speaker, but it is true bi-wire.
Almarg; I understood the hookup scheme the OP is utilizing, and I agree it is not bi-wiring. I was referring to someone in this, or the previous thread, who was, I think, explaining that parallel bi-wiring is attained through a standard bi-wire configuration plus the use of jumpers simultaneously. I have never heard of this and it seems to make no sense to me as I can't see what could possibly be the benefit of such a hookup scheme. The explanation howevever lacked a certain clarity and I may have misunderstood.
Cookie:

What a pleasure! I’m honored that you answered my thread. I am an avid customer of yours and I absolutely love what you are doing at Blue Coast Records. If there is anyone on this site who has not downloaded or ordered recordings from Blue Coast, they truly don’t know what they have been missing out on. Indeed, I was never able to discern your voice in the background with my previous setup. From your post, it sounds like you were surprised that your voice may not be revealed via some systems. Well, there you go folks…this may well be a good “test” for resolution. Gee, I wonder how much clearer Cookie’s voice on that recording can sound!!!

Keep up the excellent work Cookie and pass along enthusiastic kudos to the outstanding artists who play so passionately live at Blue Coast Records…. P.S.: Do you sell your speaker cables?

Rcrerar / Al: Regarding the whole Parellel bi-wire matter, I sure don’t know why the method shown in “figure three” would provide, or even if it may hinder performance. I was hoping an electrical engineer sort may pick up and run with an explanation.

Stringreen: I think that my soundstage is a bit more closed in too. It’s funny, but the central image is considerably deeper (farther back) than before. While this certainly increases the three-dimensionality of the soundstage – in terms of depth, for me it actually makes the vocals appear too far away. I am actually very surprised how much difference changing out speaker cables can make. With the Anti Cables, there is no doubt that the resolution in my system has increased. Now, I need to play around with the configuration to see if I can “shape” the sound to my liking. How are your Anti Cable runs configured.
Cookie -- I second Ben's thought that we are honored by your presence and your comment.
2chlben: Regarding the whole Parellel bi-wire matter, I sure don’t know why the method shown in “figure three” would provide, or even if it may hinder performance. I was hoping an electrical engineer sort may pick up and run with an explanation.
Well, I am an electrical engineer (retired), and an experienced digital and analog circuit designer and manager, and to the extent that cable differences are explainable by generally recognized science I think that the only effects of "parallel bi-wiring" that might be significant are that resistance, inductance, and the possible impact of skin effect would all be reduced.

If the paralleled conductors are identical, all of those things would be cut in half (approximately, in the case of inductance, depending on how the twisting is done). However, none of those reductions would be significant unless the corresponding single cable configuration would have excessive resistance, inductance, or skin effect. And I would not expect any of those things to be significant, even in a single cable configuration, with a properly chosen good quality cable of modest length.

Also, capacitance will be increased as a result of using paralleled cables, but I would not expect that to be significant for an amp to speaker connection under typical circumstances.

In the other thread, as you'll recall, I addressed some of the effects of true bi-wiring, which are not realized if the jumper is present (i.e., are not realized by "paralleled bi-wiring"). Whether or not those effects would represent a net benefit, a net negative, or no difference at all, are, judging by many previous threads on the subject, dependent on both the system and the listener.

What are the answers to the first two questions in my first post above?

Best regards,
-- Al