Aging and Treble and Income?


I'm in my late 50s; been listening to, and playing, music for most of my life. I still occasionally haunt the salons, but these days not to buy new gear; more just curiosity about developments in our wonderful hobby. These days I just buy music; records, CDs and the odd download.
I was listening to a very expensive system recently, a combination of an excellent digital front end, feeding an exotic tube array of components, and outputting via a beautifully constructed set of English high-end speakers.
A very impressive sound to say the least. Not like real music though: very very good hi-fi, but not real.
One of the obvious oddities was the frequency response above maybe 4k. Just incorrect. Very clear, very emphasised and incisive, no doubt, but not right.
And it occured to me that this isn't unusual. And then a set of questions came to me. For the purposes of this debate I will exclude the 128k iPod generation - their tastes in listening are their own, and as much driven by budget as space constraint as anything else. I prefer to concentrate on the generation that has increased leisure and disposable income. It's a sad fact that this generation is plagued by the inevitability of progressive hearing loss, most often accompanied by diminished ability to hear higher frequencies. But it's this generation that can afford the 'best' equipment.

My question is simply this: is it not possible (or highly likely) that the higher-end industry is driven by the need to appeal to those whose hearing is degrading? In other words, is there a leaning towards the building-in of a compensatory frequency emphasis in much of what is on the shelves? My question is simplistic, and the industry may indeed be governed by the relentless pursuit of accuracy and musicality, but so much that I have hear is, I find, very difficult to listen to as it is so far from what I believe to be reality. Perhaps there has always been an emphasis in making our sytems sound "exciting" as opposed to "honest": I can understand the pleasure in this pursuit, as it's the delight in technology itself and I see nothing very wrong in that. But, all this emphasised treble....I just wonder if anyone out there in cyberspace agrees with me?
57s4me
That's a very interesting question.

Would not surprise me a bit if top ends are tipped up by design for various reasons in many cases, including to appeal to aging ears with $$$s to spend. There are ways to produce results like this in a system even if individual components are more "neutral" in nature.

At a recent audio show I attended, I noticed some very expensive and well received setups like this that had that sparkling and detailed hifi kind of sound in spades. Lots of large exotic tube amps even in some of those.

Sound is like ice cream. Not all like the same flavors. How good can vanilla ice cream get? Until it becomes something else perhaps similar but more unique or exotic? That's usually what sells to those seeking a new thrill or something unique or different, so wouldn't surprise me a bit if true for high end audio as well.
I think more than a few of us older audiophiles should address acquiring the best we can afford, properly fitted hearing aids before spending more money on "better" audio equipment.
HiFi is driven by the fact that few people listen to live acoustic music, speakers geared to reality, like say the Rega RS line, aren't big sellers.Ones voiced to reproduce amplified rock concerts, say like Paradigms ,are.
I've noticed a tendency towards brightness at some displays at the last audio show I went to (the Newport Audio Show). I thought it an anomaly until I read some reports and one display, in particular was rated as one of the "best in show" and it was too sterile and bright for my taste.

Yes, there was lots of musical information bombarding my ears with detail aplenty, incisive highs, and sound that would cut right through butter. Yet it wasn't involving, organic, music to my ears. It engaged me at first but as I waited to talk to one of the reps, it began to fatigue me and I simply moved on.

All the best,
Nonoise
If one reads the AG forum regularly one can't help but notice the frequency of members seeking advice regarding how to tame an overly aggressive treble and combat listener fatigue. I'm not quite sure why this is not getting through to the people who are building the gear.