By using a cable with the packs on you will get a much lower noise floor. I've done this in the store using the non battery pack cable with the next up in the line that uses them...I've heard them on their speaker cables as well as balance and RCA. I've also done this with their USB cables and it was a bigger sound stage and much lower noise floor...There is a huge difference between the models if you are using a high resolution system. JMHO