Cary tubes?


Looking at getting into tubes.Anyone with experience with Cary 805 mono's and 98 preamp? Would match with Proac 2.5's as my room is small.Also looking at Mac MC2000,but Mac does not make a tubed preamp.Any feedback appreciated.
Mark
amwarwick
i had a cary slp98 pre for a while, & it was wery nice - better than the magnum version of the rogue 99. customer service is also excellent. but, my current melos music director is in another league altogether than the cary.

re: the cary amp, i haven't heard it, tho i've heard folks who enjoy driving proacs w/it. my opinion is that the proacs wood do better w/as much power as ewe can give 'em, so i'd tink the mac amp wood be a better match.

You should be aware that the slp98 is verrry tube-y! It's a gorgeous sounding unit but there are also more neutral-sounding pres out there. I auditioned the 98 but ultimately went with a CAT. I could've lived with the 98 though (easily).
Ive had Cary 805's for many years.You didn't specify B or C series. It makes a difference because the amps sound much better with NOS Output tubes. In the C series you use an 845 output. The problem with is that the 845 NOS tube for that application is the RCA 845 and they go for $800-1300 /pr on the used market. Too prohibitive for someone with ProAc 2.5's and Ive only seen two sales in last ten years. The Series B on the other hand uses 211 outputs. NOS GE 211's can be readily had for about $200-250/pr. The 805B with NOS outputs is far superior to the Series C with the stock 845 (Which I think are Chinese). As a bonus, the 805B is cheaper used ($3800-4000) than the 805C used ($6000). On the ProAc's: yes they are a nice match: very rich, large liquid soundstage, somewhat rolled. (The NOS GE 211 - or RCA 211 that I use - helps dynamics considerably,extends energy into the top end & tightens bass, without losing the "magic" of the amps, which is the art of the matter). You will like the combo, but the right cables will make a difference here. Since the combo excells at mids and space, a cable that can translate this is important. NBS & Purist are no-brainers here. Expensive, but something to consider down the road. On 98 pre: No, it is euphonic and will make the system too remote, slow and creamy. If you want to stay with richness but without the blurring, go to a Joule Electra LA-100 MkIII ($1700-1900 used). If need more delineated but still exceedingly liquid, then no brainer: Supratek Syhra. Unknown right now but not for long. Imported from Australia & gorgeous. They have a website. If want to stay with known component, then CJ 16LS - but it will still cost you. Last things: make stands for 805's, replace rubber feet with good cone types (Walker best, but Black Diamond #3 ok), NOS Brimar inputs best (yes, better than RCA...), and WE 300B's critical for driver tube (if go for 805B, get one with WE's because stock tube was Cetron and they were horrible. Sovtek 300B, a common replacement, is vibrant w/ good pace but a little lacking in finesse, especially when amps pushed). Also, Custom power cord #11 great value ($150 used) Good luck.
i found the cary pre extremely neutral, tight & fast - not at *all* tubey. but, this was in direct comparison w/the rogue 99, which was *very* coloured, imho... amplification was a pair of electrocompaniet amps im biamped mode, driving meret re's, w/a pair of bridged adcom 555's driving vmps larger subs below 60hz.
Try a passive remote volume control like the Creek OBH12 for $350.00. It's great, I've been using one for three years. It has also worked fine running right from my C.D. player into any of the three Cary SETs I've owned.