Center Channels sound crappy


Why do center channels sound so crappy with music?

This is something that absoilutly baffles me...

I was talking to a KEF rep at SoundTrack audio, he said it is becuase they are designed for dialogue more than anything else.
What im wondering, is why can alot of center channels only give marginal preformance with music?
My front KEF Q1's do a fantastic job creating a phantom center channel, the dialogue is crisp and clear. They do a fantastic job on music as well.

Wouldnt it make more sence to just get another KEF Q1 for $225.00 and use that as a center instead of paying 350 for a speaker that does great voice but crappy musical preformance?

I know it was not the "center channel" amp either, it is on a DENON 3803 and all channels are identical, i was playing it with the 5/7ch stereo mode and all the speakers sounded great for music but the center channel really really sucked..

i noticed this with my past DefTech setup as well...

has anybody done a serious comparison between a center channel and a monitor of the same brand with same drivers and heard any vast improvement with the center speak with dialogue?

does it have anything to do with sound dispersion?

----- Slappys disclaimer-----
It was not my intent to offend anybody with the above post, im genuinly curious and hope it does not offend anybody becuase that is clearly not the intent. If so, please reffer to "My Apologies" thread which explains more.
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THANKS IN ADVANCE
slappy
Mborner...If this "redirection" was not being done, center channel info would be missing. In other words, if you were set up for 5 channels, and the speaker wire fell off the center front speaker, something would be missing.
Eldartford,
Yes you are absolutely correct! As a matter of fact you would be missing more than "something", you would be missing almost everything including all of the dialog of a film soundtrack. That is why you don't want to just disconnect the center channel. "Disconnecting" the center channel and telling the processor that you don't have one are two, very different things.
I use two center channel speakers,on both sides of the monitor. The tweeter and smaller driver are now in the same plane as the main speakers. I have a Y adapter from the center channel out, into a stereo amp so each channel drives one speaker. I tried all the other placements, and they just didn't cut it. Also, my CC speakers are smaller bookshelf versions of the mains, the brand that I have doesn't make a "center channel" speaker.
The center channel for home theater is meant for dialog only. You really don't need a center channel speaker for TV if the two main speakers are on line with the TV screen. You will never get the dialog image right with a center speaker unless you don't mind if the center speaker is directly in front of the TV screen. It's best to have two center channel speakers on both sides of the screen for that purpose. Digital processors are not designed to have the center channel for music unless you want to spend megabucks for a top of the line Lexicon processor.

There is another way to have a center speaker for music. Instead a using a home theater processor, create a mono channel by fusing the left and right channels together. Paul Klipsch designed a very simple channel fuser back in the 60's to fill in the hole between two Khorns requiring a 90 degree separation at two corners of the room. This was the main reason for creating the Belle speaker. With most main speakers set apart with a 60 degree separation, a center speaker is not really needed for music.

However, if you insist on having a center speaker for music, try the following. The center amplifier and speaker should be identical to the main channels. Build a center channel fuser as mentioned above. Call or email Klipsch about getting the schematic diagram for putting together this very simple unit. You will need some soldering experience. If you have a high end system, use Vishay S102 1/3 watt resistors, and substitute the pots with a high end volume control which can be found on the internet.
Correction on my behalf; it was not Rives who took me to task in AS but Norm Varney at A-V RoomService. My apologies to Rives ; the industries most respected acoustical engineering firm.