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Time to get things straight.

Every person that states the Technics 1200 is THE best TT in its price class risks himself to getting Flack from the belt drive crowd. I have posted that Thorstens speaks highly of it and here's some of his quotes as posted in the Asylum:

"And yes, the 1200 with a better arm is dynamite. Even stock with minimal tweaks it's an easy Rega P2/3 killer."

"So don't knock it if you don't know it. A Rega Planar is a cheap bearing and Motor stuck into a piece of MDF, the engineering content for all intents is ZERO. The only worthwhile thing on the Rega is the Arm."

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And from Steven Rochlin:

"Hmmmm... I DO AGREE that the 1200 does not have the overall "ultimate" PRAT of my VOYD setup (or a finely tweaked Linn LP12), though overall it really does have nice, smooth, consistant PRAT that blows away even the $20k+ Goldmund Reference and the like. Maybe the 1200 does not the worlds best PRAT, but DARN good. Over 10,000 dance clubs around the world prove it virtually every night."

"The Technics SL-1200 in its various offerings are EXCELLENT!!! Do not listen to those "belt drive only" folks. Wonder if they know that the highly praised Goldmund STUDIO turntable was direct drive? Anyway, the 1200 is probably THE BIG BARGAIN in turntable land. Great motor, good platter, built to take a lickin' and keep on tickin' (with apologies to Timex, whose watches ALWAYS broke after a month for me).

"Over the MANY years I have used more than i care to remember 1200 tables at MANY clubs. They ALL worked flawlessly and even after all the, er, um, abuse of back scratching and needle dropping and vinyl dropping they just kept going and going. IMHO there is pretty much nothing on the new market under $800 that comes near the 1200 in speed stability, drive, and overall PRAT (pace, rhythm and timing). Given the right needle i can only see great things UNTIL you get the upgrade itch and go for a used Linn LP12 or VOYD. Besides, what other "audiophile" table would you play Led Zeppelin backwards to hear all those Satanic messages? Oh how about ELO backwards to hear the secret message?"

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Wake up, people!!!

So much for glass and particle board...
psychicanimal
jimbo3
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Geez, I agree with and supported virtually all of Psych's very first line that the 1200 is one of the best in it's price range and I recommend it, and you say I'm trying to "start something" because I didn't bend over all the way and say that it is absolutely the best table in the universe in it's price point? You boys are wound up WAY too tight.

Y'know, there are hundreds of recommendations here monthly to get someone started in all sorts of price ranges, yet not one of the thousands of Rega or Music Hall or Basis owners whines, cries and carries on like you kids when their table isn't universally proclaimed "the one and only Truth, the Way, the Light and the End-All and Be-All". You're just going to have to get over the fact that there are alot of darn good choices out there and the world (and records) doesn't revolve on what you *think* you know to be The Only Thing For Everyone For All Time.

Regards to everyone else-
Jim
jimbo3
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Psych- The Origin Live RB-250 is considered better than the OL RB-300. I don't recall the details, but it had alot to do with the stub configuation being more conducive to improvements. There were/are more than one level of upgrades than OL could do and the 250 enabled them to do more. From there, OL took the 250 a step further into a Silver(?) series (not to be confused with the current Silver model), which might be the predecessor to their latest off-the-shelf offerings. Might want to check their website.

Regards
Jim
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rockinroni
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Psych, you need to read this thread, sorry I thought you had seen it already.
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ecclectique
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WOWZA!I am still wondering if this is just a ruse to ruffle a few feathers or a serious debate. Anyone involved in this silly thread live in Ontario's Golden Horshoe? IF so then lets do a shootout!I'll tell you what...My nephew still has my late father inlaws techniques 1200 table which I recently set up with a Fidelity Research FR-1 mk2 cartridge.Yes- it is a decent table and certainly well made with a good bearing with perfect stability and pitch.One of the best DJ tables ever made for that application. A very good friend has a rega 3 with a modified rega tonearm and a grado reference statement series that I also set up . I also have a grado reference that I use as a back-up.We can use my grado in the 1200 and my friend will bring his rega.I have a digital jewelers scale and a dennison protractor for optimim set up.For you guys in the techniques camp....I am betting 5 to 1 the rega will stomp all over it! Bring your dough gang.Noooooo... I do not own a rega nor do I use one and have absolutely no affilliation with any commercial interest in the rega.As a matter of fact,the rega wouldn't even be my first choice at that price point!However... You can be rest assured the glass and mdf will unconditionally smoke the 1200.Absolutely no contest! PS: don't forget to bring your dough gang.
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dennis_the_menace
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the difference between my technics 1200 and my teres 245 is mind boggling. i don't think i could ever listen to the technics again. ... EVER. it sounded that bad vs. the teres.

i know its not really a fair comparison, but the technics isn't all that. i liked my cds on a wadia 860x better than i liked vinyl on the 1200. the teres stomps my wadia...
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