Opinion of budget phono preamps?


Is there a consensus on the comparison of a budget phono pre vs the built-in stage of a budget preamp. Was considering something like an Adcom 565 or a CJ PV10 rather than a standalone Rotel, Creek, etc. Also considering a DIY AES PH-1, which might be best of both worlds. Whaddya think?
inscrutable
One advantage of an outboard is you can park it close to you table and skip the ic's from table to phono, but keep in mind you may want to keep some space if the phono you get has it's power supply in the box as opposed to outboard.
According to an EE friend, also a pre designer, the hierarchy is:
1) top class phono, integrated or not (the stand-alone is also available with the line companion at a price). VERY expensive.
2) (Top) quality DIY. Cheaper in asking price, more expensive in effort.
3) All others, acording to musical taste of the moment.
Caveat: phono pre's require cables= extra expense.

I had DIY phono (tube). Cables cost 50% of phono (because I don't know how to DIY the cables whereas the DIY has excellent instructions!).

It's your call!
Hi guys,
Wanted to thank you for your input, and let you know where I'm heading. Sorry to leave you hanging ... been mostly incommunicado for a while. I've decided to go the DIY standalone route. I'm going to look more closely at the Curcio, but will probably end up with the AES, since the Cary guys are just down the road. Not the best match for my medium-output (1.6 mV) MC cartridge, but I have to finish making some sawdust before I can make soldering fumes, and the whole table/arm/cart will be upgraded in the fairly near future anyway.