Your Favorite AC Outlets


I am getting ready to re-do my AC runs from my junction box to my listening room; going to add dedicated lines for my monoblocks. I want to upgrade my wall receptacles to good quality isolated grounded outlets. Have you tried the PS Audio outlets? Is their higher priced gold plated outlets that much better than their cheaper model? What brand(s) do you like best?
stickman451
How can a person form an opinion on something that they have not experienced? It is then no longer an informed opinion, it is a wild guess.
Or it could be based on technical understanding, technical analysis, or (hopefully well trained) technical instinct.

While I always hold Roxy's opinions in high regard, in this case I must agree with Mapman, whose opinions I also always hold in high regard. An unequivocal, unqualified, absolute, all encompassing statement such as the one I have quoted is tantamount to saying that technically based opinions invariably have zero place in audiophile pursuits. I would disagree with that notion.

One does not have to jump out of an airplane at 10,000 feet without a parachute in order to be qualified to express the opinion that it is not a good idea. Similarly, those with sufficiently good technical backgrounds can SOMETIMES correctly make "a priori" judgments about issues that fall within their areas of expertise.

Furthermore, those who HAVE tried a particular product and express an opinion about it can often be presenting information that has no more value than a "wild guess," not necessarily because they are imagining things, but because they may be attributing the perceived difference to the wrong variable (which is very easy to do in audio, IMO), or because their lack of understanding of the technical aspects of what is going on may mean that their findings would be inapplicable to other systems and circumstances.

Now certainly science, engineering, and technical understanding have a long way to go before they can explain and predict everything about what we hear and how a product or tweak will perform. Any good circuit design engineer will tell you that some things, as a practical matter, can't be analyzed and are inherently unpredictable. So the question becomes where to draw the line between what may be remotely within the realm of possibility, even though it may be counter-intuitive and/or not fully explainable, and what definitely deserves a place in the Twilight Zones of audio. Obviously opinions will differ widely about where to draw that line. But it seems to me that where to draw that line with respect to any specific tweak can and often should be the subject of legitimate debate.

In this case, although I have not personally experimented with audiophile-oriented outlets, as I presume Schipo has not, my opinion nevertheless differs from his, and I do believe that differences and improvements can be realized in many cases via that kind of upgrade. Although I would expect that any such comparisons, if performed in a properly disciplined manner with possible extraneous variables being well controlled, and across a wide variety of components, would provide results that are component, system, room, listener, and recording dependent, and that are not strongly correlated with price.

But I respect his right to express his opinion, and I consider it, along with the claims of some of those who have upgraded their outlets, to warrant legitimate debate, not summary rejection.

IMO. Best regards,

-- Al
Al, great response! With minor edits for specificity your response would be appropriate in a number of threads in this forum.
I think it's one thing to be skeptical but quite another not to be willing to get to the bottom of things by actually investigating these claims which, in the case of wall receptacles, have been around since Jesus was a second lieutenant. I would have suspected real skeptics would be a little more curious, but hey! that's just me. Recall the first thing that happens in the scientific method is observation, and somewhere in there is investigation. Without which you just get a whole lotta who shot John.
Al, thanks for your response and expounding on the topic so accurately and concisely (as usual).

Knowledge is always the key to effectively mitigating any risk, large or small.

An appropriate euphemism would be "look before you leap".

Its that simple, I think.

When someone figures out a way to effectively try everything, please let me know. I may be the first to sign up, if it works for me.

Meanwhile, the reality is each individual will have to make up their own minds regarding value propositions and how to most effectively spend their time and $$$$s.

Reality is such a downer sometimes. At least most of us are free to choose how we spend our time. That's a big +++.