d99: what's the budget? if it's in the $15K or more range, he'll find nothing better than the boulder 1012, unless he's willing to go to, say, $36k. plus, with the boulder rig, he can dump his unidentified pre. (BTW, the 1012 has an absolute KILLER phono stage as "standard equipment"; maybe you can talk your buddy into the glories of vinyl, too.) 'course he ought'a dump his carousel, as well. unless he wants to add a few horses that go up-n-down. -kelly