Results from Beta Testers of New Formulas

Dopogue,
Play one of those "pretty darn clean records", then clean it with Paul's two-step (kind of sounds like a dance), and play it again. I've been cleaning my very clean records with this stuff and am hearing a big improvement. Like you, I also just picked up some used and dirty LP's to test with this stuff, and am anxious to see how it does on records that have not been well cleaned prior to this.

Dear Paul: I agree with 4yanx, Motdathird and Sean. I don't want to talk more about, I thing almost is saying.
I'm a little worried about an important issue with your formula: it's works like an equalizer or it really works ?,
all of your beta testers experienced what they thing was an improvement and they like it: after using your formula the sound was more accurate to the recording?, nobody knows it: they like it ( but in this forumm I learn that at least the 90% of the people likes the equalized sound, they use tube electronics: equalizers. ).
I think that you have to test your formula, too, with the people that can know if what they hear is accurate to the recording or is not: ask to David Wilson ( Wilson speakers ), Tony Faulkner ( Green Room Production ), Joe Harley ( Audioquest/Groove Note Recordings ), John Atkinson ( Stereophile ) if your formula it is an improvement and accurate to the recording and let us to know their answers: all those people were at the live
recording and they really knows about it and only they can tell us the true. This is a critical issue for the people that loves the music and that cares about music sound reproduction at home. So, do it you a favor and do something for us and for the people that you ask for a free help. I'm stay tunned for your answer and effort in this way.
Best regards and enjoy the music.
Raul.

Rauliruegas,
What makes you think the people using the test formulas don't know what the recording is supposed to sound like? Are you saying the testers are unqualified? Are your comments directed at hearing acuity, the quality of the playback system, the condition of the vinyl? Quite frankly, I don't understand your point. Why would any of the industry people mentioned in your post be any better a judge of whether or not the product works than anyone else? Does their "stamp of approval" make it any better? What matters is if the people who choose to use it, like how it works. I doubt very much that anyone of the above would submit the product to any more of a rigorous test than the average user with a record cleaning machine and a large vinyl collection.
You keep talking about people liking an "equalized" sound, and this product is an equalizer. Have you used it? Do you use any record cleaning products? Don't presume to pass judgement on this or any other record cleaning product unless you have tried it yourself. Further, do not presume to pass judgement on what people in this thread or this forum like or don't like. You speak in generalities. Your opinions are welcome here, but keep them in the context of what is being discussed. Have you spoken to every one of the testers? It would seem that you have in order to make the conclusion that everyone has heard an improvement and that everyone likes an equalized sound. That conclusion cannot be gathered from the comments thus far in this thread.

The enzymatic formula contains: (1) enzymes; (2) surfactants; and (3) distilled water. The cleaner formula contains: (1) surfactants; (2) a wetting agent; and (3) distilled water.

The formulas contain no plasticizers (e.g., LAST Record Preservative), nor does it contain lubricating agents (e.g., Gruv-Glide and RRL). It is not possible for the formulas to act as "equalizers" and alter the sound. Any differences perceived are due -- strictly -- to cleaner vinyl.

Best regards,
Paul

Paul,

I got my samples today, many thanks again. I fired up the system to do a little pre-cleaning warm-up listening, and damned if there isn't a blown channel in my Audio Note! Changed all the tubes, but no joy. So, I had to reconfigure everything using a Belles 150a I have lying around. I'm just about done setting the electronics back up, so I should be doing some serious listening over the next few days. I think I'll leave the amp & that thing that plays the little silver things running overnight to get the amp up to speed. I really need to get reaquainted with the SS amp before I can do any real world comparisons. I'm even going to give up my afternoon golf tomorrow!

Slipknot,

Once again you've gotten it right! But I figure if all of those guys mentioned in that other post were there when "it" was recorded, I need something to "equalize" the differences in their ears. Thanks God I'm having tube amp problems at this time. That way, there is one less thing to screw up the sound of Paul's formula! I seriously hope I can enjoy the non-live music.

Remember all, blanket conclusions are like assholes: We all are, I mean have, one, usually.

Joe