Results from Beta Testers of New Formulas


Hi everyone,

Please use this thread to post the results of your testing of the 2-step formulas. Thank you.

Best regards,
Paul Frumkin
paul_frumkin
Rauliruegas,
What makes you think the people using the test formulas don't know what the recording is supposed to sound like? Are you saying the testers are unqualified? Are your comments directed at hearing acuity, the quality of the playback system, the condition of the vinyl? Quite frankly, I don't understand your point. Why would any of the industry people mentioned in your post be any better a judge of whether or not the product works than anyone else? Does their "stamp of approval" make it any better? What matters is if the people who choose to use it, like how it works. I doubt very much that anyone of the above would submit the product to any more of a rigorous test than the average user with a record cleaning machine and a large vinyl collection.
You keep talking about people liking an "equalized" sound, and this product is an equalizer. Have you used it? Do you use any record cleaning products? Don't presume to pass judgement on this or any other record cleaning product unless you have tried it yourself. Further, do not presume to pass judgement on what people in this thread or this forum like or don't like. You speak in generalities. Your opinions are welcome here, but keep them in the context of what is being discussed. Have you spoken to every one of the testers? It would seem that you have in order to make the conclusion that everyone has heard an improvement and that everyone likes an equalized sound. That conclusion cannot be gathered from the comments thus far in this thread.
The enzymatic formula contains: (1) enzymes; (2) surfactants; and (3) distilled water. The cleaner formula contains: (1) surfactants; (2) a wetting agent; and (3) distilled water.

The formulas contain no plasticizers (e.g., LAST Record Preservative), nor does it contain lubricating agents (e.g., Gruv-Glide and RRL). It is not possible for the formulas to act as "equalizers" and alter the sound. Any differences perceived are due -- strictly -- to cleaner vinyl.

Best regards,
Paul
Paul,

I got my samples today, many thanks again. I fired up the system to do a little pre-cleaning warm-up listening, and damned if there isn't a blown channel in my Audio Note! Changed all the tubes, but no joy. So, I had to reconfigure everything using a Belles 150a I have lying around. I'm just about done setting the electronics back up, so I should be doing some serious listening over the next few days. I think I'll leave the amp & that thing that plays the little silver things running overnight to get the amp up to speed. I really need to get reaquainted with the SS amp before I can do any real world comparisons. I'm even going to give up my afternoon golf tomorrow!

Slipknot,

Once again you've gotten it right! But I figure if all of those guys mentioned in that other post were there when "it" was recorded, I need something to "equalize" the differences in their ears. Thanks God I'm having tube amp problems at this time. That way, there is one less thing to screw up the sound of Paul's formula! I seriously hope I can enjoy the non-live music.

Remember all, blanket conclusions are like assholes: We all are, I mean have, one, usually.

Joe
Paul,

I received your products yesterday and will try to set some time aside today for testing. I'm looking forward to this exercise as I have two problematic albums I would like to make more listenable.

Rauliruegas-I have not, nor would I ever allow Wilson, Faulkner, Harley & Atkinson to make any audio decisions for me. Sounds way too much like a law firm. Besides, I've got some tubes and my own ears to go by. Just take your odd order harmonics and hum them to yourself all day long.
Dear Slipknotl: "....what the recording is SUPPOSED to sound like ?, this is the point: the testers only can suppose but they don't really know about: only the people that were at the recording sessions knows about it.
"....that the testers are unqualified ?, you told it I never mentioned about it.
"..........the quality of the playback system,....?", again you told it I never mention it.
I ask: this formula is an equalizer or it really works?.
Yes, you don't understand my point. I hope you can do it in a near future. ( Don't be angry for something that you can't understand ). Be happy.
Best regards and enjoy the music.
Raul.