Results from Beta Testers of New Formulas


Hi everyone,

Please use this thread to post the results of your testing of the 2-step formulas. Thank you.

Best regards,
Paul Frumkin
paul_frumkin
Raul -- while I'm not doubting your kind intentions (nor anyone else, surely) I still fail to understand why & how the application and subsequent removal of a cleaning agent+rinsing liquid (distilled/de-ionized water) on a rotating surface (LP) will affect the electrical properties of the upstream system (=equalisation). That's what you're inquiring about, at least that's what you're saying.
The stylus-groove is a mechanical contact so, the better the contact the better the ultimate result.

If you're wondering whether after the rinsing there is residue left which, in turn, compromises this contact affecting certain frequencies (hence "equalisation" effect)... it really doesn't seem to be the case: most people report less surface noise (removal of particles deleterious to stylus-groove contact) while no-one has reported a reduction of high frequency content after the "cleaning" (which could be an indication).

Ultimately, calling upon the mastering engineers is, I would agree with others above, a somewhat nebulous proceeding for the reasons already offered -- likewise with speaker manufacturers. Rather, you could experiment along the following lines:
Find an original master-tape--> cut two LPs; store 1 LP leave the other out (to collect dust etc). Later, perform a spectrum analysis of each LP. Apply cleaning to dirty LP. Perform spectrum analysis. Listen to "cleaned" LP vs stored LP vs master tape. If game, "clean" stored LP. Spectrum analyse it "cleaned". Listen again, comparatively. Of course, take notes all along.
Copious and difficult proceding, indeed.

At the end of the day, however, this is all just about cleaning the surfaces of a cut vinyl disk and comparing results before & after (i.e. that's what the thread is about). The "testing" conditions, while not rigourously scientific, seem adequate enough for the experiment: same downstream system, same cleaning machine, etc; the application and removal of "cleaning liquids" is the only "before & after" point. It doesn't seem like anyone has reset their riaa equalisation curve...
Cheers
Damn. Raul figured it out. The formulas contain (1) microscopic-sized audio ninjas and (2) microscopic-sized electronic parts to build an equalizer.

Once the microscopic audio ninjas are deployed via the first formula, they dig-in and camouflage, waiting until the microscopic electronic parts are stealthily delivered via the second formula.

At that point, the microscopic audio ninjas load up their microscopic audio ninja backpacks with the microscopic electronic parts, and bivouac their way (microscopically, of course) through the stylus, through cartridge, through the tonearm wires, through the interconnect, through your phono stage, and then through another interconnect, to the preamp, where they unload their gear, download microscopic audio ninja schematics, and build (and integrate) a microscopic equalizer into your preamp. Pretty nifty, eh?

Regards and enjoy the humor.
Paul
I tried the sample and it worked. It definitely removed finger prints and cleaned dirts deeply from the grooves. It even salvaged worn LPs because the wider grooves allowed the stylus digged deeper into the dirty grooves. I rinsed before vacuum the cleaning solution to ensure minimal residue left. I am ready for more of your great product.