Hi Steve
... one last Q… and a thought or two
Why do you force a person to choose which word and sampling rates are to be addressed with your components?
Why not allow for all the content from Red Book to DVD Audio to be processed by your converters clock?
Why too, not make a DAC which addresses more than merely USB?
Other digital devices do exist. I’m not blaming you, but in looking for a DAC, lets say, I looked both for build, stability, versatility and voice. Removing other interfaces in the name of gaining performance is lessening flexibility and inherent value. The price too becomes more lofty. And that is indeed your call of course.
BTW...
‘my customers don't read this forum... “
Do they peruse any at all? I posted on a couple others many of the Questions I’ve posted here..
I would take issue with you on how much money it takes someones equipment to make outstanding involving listening sessions. And right there lays the conundrum or maybe the challenge.
Simple high prices alone are less and less orienting the level of SQ. In fact the trend over the past few years is to see excellent performing products for lower costs.
I suppose shiek will always be sheik to some. Albeit, the greater buying dollar resides in less affluent climes. This is a statement from the larger portion of the digital producing industry, and a swelling trend that continues today.
One side of the Lynx clock add-on debate said virtually no greater performance results would be obtained by such an implimentation. Actually, Lynx side said that. You agreed.
The flip side of that debate implies otherwise, saying, "due to the high level of clock tech currently on board, adding an aftermarket clock is money poorly spent." Perhaps even if it is an Empiracal audio clock, huh?
Then that is a good thing! No need to spend more duckets!
for my money,I observe the threshold of diminishing returns. Some. I venture past it now and then. Just as a good brain washed audiophile should keep trying to eek out or capture that added little bit extra. That elusive next wee step up.
When that added littel bit amounts to spending $6K... vs $3K. or $1500 vs 500 - 700... I'll pass. Almost each and every time. I pass because I must financially and as I should philosophically.
For that added 50% more all I get is a rental agreement towards the next, perhaps, version you or any other maker may decide to build, and/or are enabled to build.
spending double for 10% or even 20% mo betta? I pray I never fall prey to my ego, that I'd invest that sort of money into a market which at best returns only 50% on principal... or less. And travels as briskly as does the digital realm.
In the digital kingdom as one poster already underlined... things move fast... and with some luck, he was able to flip his Emperical Audio device prior to a design change took place, lest he lose out dramatically more.
That scenario in no small part was designed by your hand. Maybe you sent out emails to all of your previous clientele of this upcoming release .... I've no idea. I'd have thought you would. I'd have thought any such a move by any maker would have issued such a communicae. Private and better still, public announcements of upcoming releases seem to serve credibility too.
Regardless, the seeming fury with which these changes transpire are by design terms swift. making digital investments still more dodgy a practice.. This year is this... next year is that... So the outlay of $6K is not a singular investment.
Let's not try fooling ourselves or anyone else.
I've been hearing a few of these in truth, high buck outfits of late... Far, far more expensively outfitted than my own... in really nice well tweaked setups. Owned by some very nice people too.
Trust me folks.... living on and a bit beyond the point of diminishing returns, is a very very, nice place indeed to exist. it really is, and in some respects it's better.
The separation between those setups and my own, subjectively speaking is not night and day, however the investment (s) are.
The more I hear of top flight, well done, quite expensive oufits only serves to remined me just how much fun and great sound one can own for just a decent investment…. Overall, maybe in the $20K or better buying a mix of new and pre-owned equipment.. and often, less..
If I could afford to be quite lavish, I'm not so sure I would... well not much more.
Given what I'm hearing and seeing with my own two ears & eyes... or what's left of 'em.
It’ll take in home auditions. First hand trials. Trials of run in kit… not a few days of something that will emerge into something very unlike it’s current sound, later.
Wehn that happens, when that becomes a widespread practice, and all those in a position to make such purchases can inspect for themselves these new bleeding edge entrees du jour, the veil will then be lifted from the high end audio circuit, and it becomes then fact and first hand info, rather than reviews and hype that will fuel purchases. People will stand online to get them at that point.
I suspect not only will their be a huge infusion of integrity, but credibility will soar for the manufacturers. . Who's the boss then will be quite evident... and by how much as then even quantitative assessments will be agreed upon, by & large.
Well maybe no quantitative assessments will be emphatically agreed upon, as no audiophile worth his salt agrees with everyone on everthing. We aren’t allowed, it’s the law don’t you know?
…and that brings me to this… Steve… what is your input here for a great sounding desktop system that won’t break the bank… as the thread requests… ???
... one last Q… and a thought or two
Why do you force a person to choose which word and sampling rates are to be addressed with your components?
Why not allow for all the content from Red Book to DVD Audio to be processed by your converters clock?
Why too, not make a DAC which addresses more than merely USB?
Other digital devices do exist. I’m not blaming you, but in looking for a DAC, lets say, I looked both for build, stability, versatility and voice. Removing other interfaces in the name of gaining performance is lessening flexibility and inherent value. The price too becomes more lofty. And that is indeed your call of course.
BTW...
‘my customers don't read this forum... “
Do they peruse any at all? I posted on a couple others many of the Questions I’ve posted here..
I would take issue with you on how much money it takes someones equipment to make outstanding involving listening sessions. And right there lays the conundrum or maybe the challenge.
Simple high prices alone are less and less orienting the level of SQ. In fact the trend over the past few years is to see excellent performing products for lower costs.
I suppose shiek will always be sheik to some. Albeit, the greater buying dollar resides in less affluent climes. This is a statement from the larger portion of the digital producing industry, and a swelling trend that continues today.
One side of the Lynx clock add-on debate said virtually no greater performance results would be obtained by such an implimentation. Actually, Lynx side said that. You agreed.
The flip side of that debate implies otherwise, saying, "due to the high level of clock tech currently on board, adding an aftermarket clock is money poorly spent." Perhaps even if it is an Empiracal audio clock, huh?
Then that is a good thing! No need to spend more duckets!
for my money,I observe the threshold of diminishing returns. Some. I venture past it now and then. Just as a good brain washed audiophile should keep trying to eek out or capture that added little bit extra. That elusive next wee step up.
When that added littel bit amounts to spending $6K... vs $3K. or $1500 vs 500 - 700... I'll pass. Almost each and every time. I pass because I must financially and as I should philosophically.
For that added 50% more all I get is a rental agreement towards the next, perhaps, version you or any other maker may decide to build, and/or are enabled to build.
spending double for 10% or even 20% mo betta? I pray I never fall prey to my ego, that I'd invest that sort of money into a market which at best returns only 50% on principal... or less. And travels as briskly as does the digital realm.
In the digital kingdom as one poster already underlined... things move fast... and with some luck, he was able to flip his Emperical Audio device prior to a design change took place, lest he lose out dramatically more.
That scenario in no small part was designed by your hand. Maybe you sent out emails to all of your previous clientele of this upcoming release .... I've no idea. I'd have thought you would. I'd have thought any such a move by any maker would have issued such a communicae. Private and better still, public announcements of upcoming releases seem to serve credibility too.
Regardless, the seeming fury with which these changes transpire are by design terms swift. making digital investments still more dodgy a practice.. This year is this... next year is that... So the outlay of $6K is not a singular investment.
Let's not try fooling ourselves or anyone else.
I've been hearing a few of these in truth, high buck outfits of late... Far, far more expensively outfitted than my own... in really nice well tweaked setups. Owned by some very nice people too.
Trust me folks.... living on and a bit beyond the point of diminishing returns, is a very very, nice place indeed to exist. it really is, and in some respects it's better.
The separation between those setups and my own, subjectively speaking is not night and day, however the investment (s) are.
The more I hear of top flight, well done, quite expensive oufits only serves to remined me just how much fun and great sound one can own for just a decent investment…. Overall, maybe in the $20K or better buying a mix of new and pre-owned equipment.. and often, less..
If I could afford to be quite lavish, I'm not so sure I would... well not much more.
Given what I'm hearing and seeing with my own two ears & eyes... or what's left of 'em.
It’ll take in home auditions. First hand trials. Trials of run in kit… not a few days of something that will emerge into something very unlike it’s current sound, later.
Wehn that happens, when that becomes a widespread practice, and all those in a position to make such purchases can inspect for themselves these new bleeding edge entrees du jour, the veil will then be lifted from the high end audio circuit, and it becomes then fact and first hand info, rather than reviews and hype that will fuel purchases. People will stand online to get them at that point.
I suspect not only will their be a huge infusion of integrity, but credibility will soar for the manufacturers. . Who's the boss then will be quite evident... and by how much as then even quantitative assessments will be agreed upon, by & large.
Well maybe no quantitative assessments will be emphatically agreed upon, as no audiophile worth his salt agrees with everyone on everthing. We aren’t allowed, it’s the law don’t you know?
…and that brings me to this… Steve… what is your input here for a great sounding desktop system that won’t break the bank… as the thread requests… ???