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Trying Analog Again - Sugg for $2K-$4K Budget?

After reading all the comments from everyone about how Vinyl has such a superior sound vs CD, I am interested in giving Vinyl a try again. My only memories are from 20+ years ago with an inexpensive TT.

I enjoy all types of music and especially instrumental piano, guitar, and quality female vocals.

My current system consists of McIntosh MC2102/C2200, Naim CD5, and Alon (Nola) II speakers. The C2200 has a phono stage that Stereophile rated as "good, but not stellar" and Absolute Sound rated as excellent. Phono stage specs are MM only, 4.4mV for 2.5V output (not sure what 4.4mV sensitivity means). I would prefer not to have a separate phono stage if possible, but would entertain the possiblity if current equipment is holding me back. The new table/arm/cartridge will be sitting on the top of a Salamander Synergy S30 rack.

After lots of research and considering the wife approval factor, the VPI line looks to be the direction I'm heading. The Scout has gotten great reviews, however, there are so many other turntables (Scout Master, Super Scout Master, Aries)in that line it makes me wonder. I would prefer to purchase a high-quality table/arm/cartridge the first time vs. entry level. This strategy may not be possible on my budget - not sure.

I have no problem buying used, but have never set up or aligned a cartridge or arm. I really appreciate your help and suggestions so I can begin enjoying the "Vinyl Sound"!
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rauliruegas
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Dear friend: According your priorities my advise is that you go for the Acoustic Signature Final Tool TT ( www.acoustic-signature.com ) and Moerch DP-6 or UP-4 tonearm ( any of these tonearms have the advantage that you can mate any cartridge with it because you can choose arm wands with different effective mass. Btw, these are very good tonearms. )

For the cartridge, there are many options: high output MC cartridges or MM cartridges ( this options are for you can work with what you already have ). For the MC you can look to: Dynavector, Sumiko and Ortofon cartridges. For the MM type, you can look to: Clearaudio, Ortofon, Linn, Dynavector, Audiotechnica.

All these companies are a very trusty cartridge manufacturers.

Regards and enjoy the music.
Raul.
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nrchy
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You should have nearly unlimited possibilities in the price range you mention. There are literally thousands of great quality products available to you. The VPI is a quality product, you don't need to worry about get stuck with something. I personally would look at many other products first, but that is just a personal thing.

Wally tools are great for setting up a table. Mobile Fidelity makes a product called the Geodisc that is very helpful too for less money, but also less accuracy. The process is not as difficult as it might seem before doing it yourself.
asonicyouth
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I have a scout with a dynavector xx-2 cartridge and the dynavector p-75 phono amp. Im 22 and this is my first experience with vinyl. the table cost me 1175 new with warranty, the cart 1300 new (I splurged on it) and the P-75 was 500 new. The sound is absolutely jaw-dropping. wide open soundstage, with mircodynamics for miles. Anyway, shes callin i gotta get back!
c123666
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You can purchase a new Scheu Premier II turntable with the optional 80mm platter, 12" Scheu Classic arm, and dual arm plinth for 2500 inc shipping. If you go with the basic Premier II with the 50mm platter and single arm plinth that lowers the price about 400. Without an arm removes about another 500. Add a Rega arm with the Scheu and you have a spectacular table with a good arm for less than 2 large. Stick a Dynavector DV20XH or 10x5 and you are off to the races. The Scheu is the table that inspired the Teres project. The Scheu has continued product development over the years and has been improved.
hi_hifi
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Find a cherry condition Linn Sondek (Valhalla/Cirkus level) table with an Itok LVII arm and mount a Shelter 901. It will be hard to find a more enjoyable sounding configuration for less.

The table and arm are important, but probably the biggest impact on the sonic characteristics you will hear is going to come from the cartridge. The Shelter 901 is a wonderful cartridge: deep, tight, extended bass, beautiful midrange, gorgeous highs, open and airy, great transient attack and decay, and a very good tracker at a decent setting (about 1.6g and certainly no more than 2.0g). The cartridge is going to set you back 900 to 1300 or so. A very good Linn/Linn should fit within the balance of your budget, and the Shelter 901 likes the Linn arm. You will find lots of VPI, Basis, and other fans on Agon, but you will also find a lot of Linn fans; the Linn table has stood the test of time. It is a classic that has done it's share to preserve enthusiasm for LPs. If you ever decide to try something else it shouldn't be difficult to find a buyer for the Linn/Linn - perhaps for near what you will pay for it.

The table came in various wood finishes; go for whatever you like; the dust cover came in a tinted/smoked version and a clear version - go for the clear.
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