Upgrading the Source.


I've slowly built a two channel system from the time I was 16. First starting with a simple Yamaha/psb combo till now...some 10years later to a SimAudio Moon i-5080, Polk Audio LSi 9 speakers and NAD 541i CDP. The Moon was the last upgrade and thus the NAD 541i, even only a year old, is the weakest link. I've come to the conclusion that small upgrades will cost me more down the road.

I'm an avid reader of UHF magazine and I relate to the importance of source first. What I need is some opinions on possible upgrades. Arcam, Musical Fidelity, Naim, NAD silver, Rotel, Shanling, Linn the list seems endless.

What I can tell you is that I could see myself one day, getting that final Intergrated amp like the SimAudio i-5. Possibly 3 years from now, no earlier then 2. The CDP I need should come up to the standards of the associated gear I'm using now, and also allow for further growth with speakers. I DO however feel this will be my last CD player, untill a higher res formatt like SACD takes off. Perhaps the Shanling S200 with the Chris Johnson upgrade?

I even wonder if higher priced players then the one I have now like the Rotel 1070 are even worth the bother. Again, I'm very happy with the Polk Audio LSi 9 speakers (some of the most underrated speakers on the market, and rightly so from a big market speaker company) I want the jump UP to count. Please help steer me into a narrower path.
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It does defy all mini monitor standards. I, do, however, use my subwoofer that I had with my Revel M20s. I have it crossed over at 40 Hz, but ran the speakers for months without it and was very content. I, still, prefer to use the sub woofer, though rarely required, for those recordings that can push the limits of any monitor or floorstander, for that fact. I would be will to bet that many audiophools wouldn't require a sub. If I didn't own one, already, I would probably, still, be listening to my Caravelles without a sub. My Caravelles with their stands are absolutely ridiculous. Every day I listen I'm still amazed what comes out of these babies. It's all in the crossover. Fabulous, Phase coherence like nothing I've ever heard. Rember I said "that I ever heard." The Jmlab Utopia Bes were the best darn monitor, by far, I'd ever listened to, until the Caravelles. Want to know more about the speaker? Go to audiopoints.com/ Starsound Technologies website.
peace, warren
I think Ffontan's point Warrenh is that he can get more out of $7500 and a stellar performer like the LSi then spending $7500 on speakers with bad electronics.

I wont defend the LSi's anymore. At the same token I'm sure you personally have not heard them, so the point is moot.
Look, I'm not knocking your LSi's. I know you love them and they obviously do the job for you. . I'm just saying, from my listening experiences, there are much better choices, as far as monitors go, that I would pursue. True, I've never heard your monitors, but I have heard much more expensive Polks, that couldn't go tete at tete with any of the monitors I mentioned. Great source,amp, cables, ICs the like? All that "great" stuff needs a great forum--....and dat be the speakers. I've beaten this to death...happy listening warren
I have only heard Revel speakers in two dealerships but one had them in dedicated single speaker room. A souless musical presentation is what I say. I was bored and irritated within 5 min. They are a technologial achievement but are in no way a musical transducer.
Warrenh:

You said: "True, I've never heard your monitors, but I have heard much more expensive Polks, that couldn't go tete at tete with any of the monitors I mentioned."

That right there, says it all...I don't mean to knock on you, but like a friend of mine said once: "If you don't know, you don't know".

Until you listen to those monitors in particular, you really can't judge. You can't judge their sound from what you heard of other Polk models from the past, no matter how expensive they were, because they are different. Technology evolves, so does speaker building knowledge. The LSi line is quite possibly the best line of speakers Polk has ever built, regardless of what previous models costed.

I'll tell you what something. I've never listened to your monitors, but I've listened to the Revel M20s, for all their virtues(and they have many), to my ears they seem clinical. I've listened to the B&W N805, and I prefer the Polks...That doesn't mean I haven't heard speakers I didn't like more than the Polks. I heard a pair of Thiel CS2.4 at a friend's house, and those are DAMN impressive speakers. But even those, are not without drawbacks.

And ultimately that's what we're talking about here, preference and taste. Like I said before, there is no arguing matters of taste. Taste(preference) needs no justification, it is what it is...

You like your monitors, God bless you for that. Listen and enjoy them. Now, THAT doesn't make anyone else's choice any less valid. Nor does it necessarily makes your speakers or any of the ones you mentioned any better than the Polks. They are different, and they appeal to different tastes.

Some audiophiles love tube amps and swear by them...as of right now, I wouldn't spend a dime on a tube amp. That's me, that's my choice, but it doesn't make tube amps invalid, or bad choices. Just not my cup of tea. I'm just an engineer who hates putting up with inconvenience...and I'm not an audiophile, just a music lover.