How do VANDERSTEEN Signature 2ce's rate?

Joe, you make the Silverline Sonatas sound so appealing. I'm wondering if you are referring to the now discontinued Avalon rip-off version or the new retro-Wharfdale sand-filled model.

I am glad working in a bank makes you an athority on sound and music joe,and therfore qualified to dispence advice to others. I ran a store where we sold both Theil and Vandersteen. They are both quality products but the Vandersteens always sound more like the real thing. The standard 2Ce does not lack transparency or image specificity. That sounds like a problem with the equiptment running them. The problem is that most people run the 2Ce with good, but not great electronics and front end gear. Hook them up to a first class front end and some great tube gear and you will get a very realistic and musical experience. I have run them with both ARC and Cornad Johnson electronics. I have also ran them with Adcom and NAD, not that these are trash, it's just not going to let you hear what the speaker is capable of. Unfortunatly most people hook up this kind of SS gear to them and then proclaim that the speaker does this or that. Just ain't so! I have the standard 2Ce myself with the 2Wq and it is very good. The sub makes the system really come alive. I am sure that Richard Vandersteen would like to be informed that his hearing sucks. Of course he dosen't work in a fancy ass bank and therefore must be stupid. next time I need HiFi gear I will proceed to the ATM and hope golden ears pop out of the machine.

“Oh what tangled webs we weave when we practice to deceive” It seems old “Joe”coherent who it would seem on the surface was just trying to have a little fun with his flame throwing may have a little darker side after all. The good folks over at Audio Asylum discovered it a little sooner. He stirred up quite a ruckus over there as well and even went so far to say that there was a conspiracy against him. He further states on AA that on Audiogon he was registered as Joe Coherent and that the Joecoherent on Audiogon was fabricated by an imposter that was trying to defame him, and that he was going to find out who. He used near identical language on another thread made against me, I thought he was just throwing grenades again, apparently he really meant it. There is no Joe Coherent registered on Audiogon just our joecoherent using the same style and phrasing that he claims is an imposter. The threads for those interested are on Speaker Asylum 8/14/00 “Amp for Silverline Sonata” and General Asylum 8/15/00 “ Confirmed I purchased the Sonatas”. If you read this Joe all remarks and comments to you made by me were in fun and jest, I got a real chuckle over some of your insults although you were starting to push the envelope. If you think there really is a conspiracy against you, better get some professional help. Oh joe, exactly who are you? Sherlock !!!! Why don't you come and join us. That isn't an invitation for an insult, it is genuine.

Thanks Tubegroover. The guy's a few french fries short of a Happy Meal. Who knew?

Maxgain: Your point about driving the Vandy 2Ce's with a good quality front-end is bang on! In the years I have owned Vandy speakers, and in the years I sold high-end audio gear, most of the people that I knew with the Vandy 2-series speakers generally used mid-fi amplification with a mediocre vinyl or CD setup. When the Vandy's are driven with a good front-end and good electronics, they provide performance that competes well with speakers at twice the price. So, to go back to the original question that started this thread, Vandy's are a fine speaker when part of high-quality SYSTEM - with the emphasis here on the word "system". Good speakers accurately reproduce what is fed into them, and that is certainly true of the Vandy 2Ce / 2Ce Signature.