How do VANDERSTEEN Signature 2ce's rate?


Any of you own or hear the new Vandersteen Signature 2CE? Does it overcome the lack of transparency & imaging specificity the old ones lack? I guess that is why there are so many Thiel lovers out there. Appreciate anyone's feedback on either side.
kevziek
“Oh what tangled webs we weave when we practice to deceive” It seems old “Joe”coherent who it would seem on the surface was just trying to have a little fun with his flame throwing may have a little darker side after all. The good folks over at Audio Asylum discovered it a little sooner. He stirred up quite a ruckus over there as well and even went so far to say that there was a conspiracy against him. He further states on AA that on Audiogon he was registered as Joe Coherent and that the Joecoherent on Audiogon was fabricated by an imposter that was trying to defame him, and that he was going to find out who. He used near identical language on another thread made against me, I thought he was just throwing grenades again, apparently he really meant it. There is no Joe Coherent registered on Audiogon just our joecoherent using the same style and phrasing that he claims is an imposter. The threads for those interested are on Speaker Asylum 8/14/00 “Amp for Silverline Sonata” and General Asylum 8/15/00 “ Confirmed I purchased the Sonatas”. If you read this Joe all remarks and comments to you made by me were in fun and jest, I got a real chuckle over some of your insults although you were starting to push the envelope. If you think there really is a conspiracy against you, better get some professional help. Oh joe, exactly who are you? Sherlock !!!! Why don't you come and join us. That isn't an invitation for an insult, it is genuine.
Thanks Tubegroover. The guy's a few french fries short of a Happy Meal. Who knew?
Maxgain: Your point about driving the Vandy 2Ce's with a good quality front-end is bang on! In the years I have owned Vandy speakers, and in the years I sold high-end audio gear, most of the people that I knew with the Vandy 2-series speakers generally used mid-fi amplification with a mediocre vinyl or CD setup. When the Vandy's are driven with a good front-end and good electronics, they provide performance that competes well with speakers at twice the price. So, to go back to the original question that started this thread, Vandy's are a fine speaker when part of high-quality SYSTEM - with the emphasis here on the word "system". Good speakers accurately reproduce what is fed into them, and that is certainly true of the Vandy 2Ce / 2Ce Signature.
That's a very good point Sd. In fact, my Vandy's are pretty good at showing me the true quality of a recording. And I'm starting to understand that most recording out there are real junk. I was running mid level equipment and thus built my CD collection around it. After I got the Vandy's and my other gear, I wondered what was wrong. The more expensive equipment didn't appear to be an upgrade at all. Then I slipped an MoFi Ellington recording in, and WOW what a difference. Then I knew where the weak link in my system was....it was in the recording themselves!
Issabre You have discovered the most important point in audio period. That given an excellent recording all systems will improve. An excellent system can make the recording come alive. My first experience with a true high end system was with these speakers. If I were recommending a relative budget system to anyone, I would recommend these speakers and encourage that the money be spent in the electronics, not in more expensive speakers. The Vandys will certainly improve upon what is in front of them and there is no reason in many cases to upgrade these speakers to something "better". They truly do it all.