Talon Loudspeakers

I only play mine loud during the day, At night while we're as sleep they play low.In the manual(which I'm sure you've read a million times) it says not to use any breaking in tweaks with the acception of loud,harmonic rich music.

jeez, (sy)phill(ys) - i guess yer rite - too bad i'm stupid. too bad that's all ewe care about re: audio. doug

I haven't seen the specs on the particular ceramic midrange that is in the Kharmas (it's not Accuton, it's supposedly much better), but I can tell you that the Accuton ceramic drivers are not any faster than the Esotar mid. In fact, their moving mass is higher, and their motor strength much lower; also their surface area is larger. This translates to "slower and less dynamic", not "faster and more dynamic". Also, any metal diaphragm has break up modes that no crossover gets rid of (all tests bear this out, there's no getting around physics), where a soft dome mid has no HF resonant modes whatsoever, only one suspension (instead of two), and a smaller surface area (I'm only talking in the range above 700 Hz for these domes...OF COURSE you have to use a "cone" type driver if you are going down below 300 Hz, and these ceramics ARE like a cone despite their inverted dome shape, because they use both a front and rear suspension).

Audiogon: surely Phill isn't still here, is he?

hi carl, the accuton drivers *are* the drivers used by kharma, even their top-model, which runs ~$80k/pair (?!?) they're also known as thiel & partner - no relation to thiel in kentucky - these are german. perhaps ewe should check their specs, awailable at orcadesign: http://www.orcadesign.com/accuton/accuton.htm my understanding is that they are lighter, fast w/plenty of motor strength. also, they are ceramic - glass - not metal. their operation is virtually pistonic in nature... regards, doug ps - i guess i could have yust anwsered: carl, you're an idiot!, & left it at that - now *that* would have been productive, eh? ;~)