I am stunned

Hi Chris,

In all fairness, I did say "possibly," not "probably." In any case, I agree that it's an interesting epistemological problem, not because of what it means for the way we understand audio gear, but for what it means regarding our understanding of how the world works.

I attempted to suggest that in our culture a substantial proportion of the population doesn't realize that there is even such a thing as an epistemological problem. It's easy enough to talk about objectivity, subjectivity, empiricism, and all that, but when we dig down to examine what these really mean and what their ramifications are regarding how we view the world, not to mention their cultural and historical origins, things become more complicated; and this is an endeavor that IMO few in the population at large ever attempt, or even recognize as possible.

Sometimes you need to toss a bomb or two to get folks to take a look at their unexamined assumptions. ;-)

And as I said before, this is all in fun.

Callahfc: Yes and no, I would guess on agreement. I have a tendency to view America as being divided/segregated on a whole. I do however prefer to live in areas that I find to be a melting pot (we live in West Hollywood, CA right now which is a good example of this) and do not feel comfortable in exclusive areas, regardless of who habitates them. I came from a very mixed family which I am certain influenced me in this regard. Anyway, back to audio and I hope that Liguy will be able to try out the ML's with both single and bi-wiring in his own setup and post the results.

I am stunned. By many of the responses above.

Of course Liguy's reported experience tells us nothing about bi-wiring. At a minimum, Liguy, you could compare "biwiring" with the jumpers or shorting straps in place to traditional bi-wiring (taking them out), and then tell us what you think. If you prefer the sound with the jumpers removed then we would "know" that with your speakers in your room you think bi-wiring is better than single wiring (that's for Callahfc, with whom I am in general agreement).

I also appreciated Jbhunter's post. I don't even want to talk about the voice analogy.

And I agree in spirit with Redkiwi and (I think) Chstob. We've beaten this issue to death. Nothing any of us can say will lead to any sort of conclusion about the merits of biwiring. If you have single wire cable now and you are happy with the sound, leave well enough alone and experiment with the placement of your speakers. You'll get more of a difference from repositioning your speakers than from changing wires unless there is really someting wrong with the wires you have.

If you have bi-wire cables like Liguy, experiment with leaving the jumpers/shorting straps in and taking them out. Decide for yourself if you can detect a difference and prefer one way or the other. I did and I like my speakers bi-wired. That proves nothing other than I like my speakers bi-wired.

Sugarbrie- I was ready to congratulate you (you're first post) on a first rate ecumenicalism, but then I found out it was really epistemological which certainly has ramifications for the ontology of the audible ephemera of the connective media in question. As Teilhard de Chardin wrote as commented upon by Alfred North Whitehead in response to the monograph by Soren Kierkegaard, (quote)
'Je parle espagnol a Dieu, italien aux femmes, francais aux hommes et allemand a mon cheval.'

Kitch rules! I have no horse, though I live in Texas. Now that we all agree (I think) do any of you know about a biwire tweak where you take the brass strap and put it back on the negative side only? I was reading at a nother lesser forum this is supposed to be the cats meow. Anyone tried it? I'm afraid to, without first knowing about it. It can't hurt right?
Thanks,
Chris