No image from Vandersteen 2ci sigs?


I'm new to the hobby & just put my system together with 2c's, a CJ MF2200 & a PV 10AL. I can't seem to get the speakers to image well in my room. The speakers are forced to be kiti-corner in the room fairly close to the side walls & rear walls (i.e. every side less than two feet away from the wall, more like 1 foot in spots) No matter where I place the speakers I just can't get a nice image or soundstage. The room does not allow many options for placement & I really have no other choice than place the speakers on the outer edges of the entertainment center. I really love the natural sound of the speakers but am missing the soundstage that I really desire. What can be done in this room?
fishwater
I had the 2ce's. I'm sorry to say it but I had to move to a different speaker.
That's exactly what I'm afraid of, I really like the sound but realize that may be my only choice.
Fishwater - The Vandies DO image well. The problem is the proximity of the speakers to the walls and if that entertainment center is in front of the plane of the speakers or even with, their sound is going to suffer.

I owned the 2c's for 10 years and when I moved I encountered a problem similar to yours in the new room. They never worked and I reluctantly gave up. Subsequent speakers never eliminated the room problem I suffered from and I ended up setting up in another room a few years ago.

In their original location(my previous home) they were out in the open and were wonderful, providing all the important elements of music reproduction including excellent staging and imaging but more importantly their full range performance and balance was totally satisfying.

Recommendations would be to get rid of the entertainment center and move the speakers out and closer together, if this is at all possible. A tall order but while you may get better imaging from another design, you will never get maximum staging with your current room configuration.
I think everyone who has responded to your question is reasonably certain that the lack of imaging, etc., is due to poor speaker placement. If there is any way to re-arrange your room before you give up on your Vandy's, you really should try.
Until you get the speakers away from the side walls, however, and out in front of your entertainment center, there isn't much likelihood that you will achieve the sound quality you want. When the Vandy's are properly located in the room, they are a fine speaker with the qualities you desire.

For what it's worth, my listening room is about the same size as yours, and I have an entertainment center between my Vandy 3A Sig's. However, I don't have the French doors to contend with. My speakers are located about 4 feet from the side walls (measured from the outside edge of the speaker), and about 30" from the rear wall (measured from the back of the speaker). The front of the speakers are about 12" beyond the front plane of the entertainment center which houses my TV and audio gear. The speakers are slightly toed-in toward the primary listening spot, and while my arrangement is hardly the best, I get good sound (imaging, soundstaging, frequency balance, etc.).

Hope you are able to find a solution to your dilemma that does not force you to sell your Vandy 2Ce Sig's, which are a very good speaker.