No image from Vandersteen 2ci sigs?


I'm new to the hobby & just put my system together with 2c's, a CJ MF2200 & a PV 10AL. I can't seem to get the speakers to image well in my room. The speakers are forced to be kiti-corner in the room fairly close to the side walls & rear walls (i.e. every side less than two feet away from the wall, more like 1 foot in spots) No matter where I place the speakers I just can't get a nice image or soundstage. The room does not allow many options for placement & I really have no other choice than place the speakers on the outer edges of the entertainment center. I really love the natural sound of the speakers but am missing the soundstage that I really desire. What can be done in this room?
fishwater
Fishwater try this site acousticsfirst.com They offer various room treatments for noise, home theater and music systems. If you submit a drawing of your room with all dimensions and placement of everything within the room they may be able to guide you with room treatments that can maximize your system. It wouldn't hurt at this point as your options seem quite limited. Last thing you want to do now is jump into another speaker until you explore all options otherwise you will end up spinning your wheels. Unsound's advice is sound and definitely worth exploring further.

Steve, no offense meant but as nice as the Pass aleph amps are, it seems quite clear the Pass isn't going to cure the problem Fishwater is experiencing. Room and placement is first and paramount in setting up a system properly.
I've moved them in about one foot & the image is much better but still not where I would like it to be. Yes, tubegroover my issue is with placement not amplification. I have the CJ as well as a McCormack DNA-1, both of these should get me where I would like to be once the speakers are placed properly. Thanks for all the help, I will be moving stuff around as much as I can before I leave on a business trip this weekend.
I noticed a huge improvement in imaging, soundstaging, and especially frequency balance, by adjusting the vertical angle of my 3A sigs. It might be worth a try if you have the adjustable stands.

Patience is a virtue needed when dealing with the Vandies. Sometimes those few inches make all the difference in the world, and WOW is it worth it.
Fishwater,

I have 2CE Sigs myself. I stumbled across a website published by Richard Hardesty formally of Widescreen Review magazine. You really need to check this site out. I bought all of my equiptment based on the information I got from him. I also had the privelage of attending two seperate seminars that were conducted in his home. He uses Vandersteen 3A sigs. I took his setup and used it to fine tune my own setup. I can tell you one thing. He uses a modified ITU standard set up. I know that his speakers are 7' apart and his prime listening position is 9' from them. They do have a slight toe in and tilt back.

Remember all vandy's are time and phase accurate so placement is absolutely critical. The replys you have received before mine all posess good information but I can tell you that his site is full of unbelievable info. I know because I went through the same problems you are having. I don't know the rules on these thread pertaining to advertising sites so please email me and I can give you all the info. You can also give me a call if you wish. I will try and help you if I can. I will email you my phone number.

Good Luck,
Chris