Speaker Choices for Tube Amps

Just try to help you, as you know mistakes in this hobby besides causing unsatisfaction, also cost $$. So i apologise if i cam across sounding rude.
What kind of music do you listen, and what do you find unsatisfying with your Pass/B&W rig? Or, you are building second system?

I am usig the Talon Raven-S speakers. They are much much more dynamic and detailed than the B&Ws, with better bass. Talon is recommending that I stay with SS amps like Sim Audio, Electrocompaniet mono blocks or Belles. These seem to be trade offs at best versus the Pass X-250. I have a friends Graaf 5050 tube amp and although I would like a few more watts, the tube sound simply adds a 3D soundstage and slightly more real sound to the system. I do not want to get tube mono blocks etc so I may consider selling the Ravens for speakers that I can play loud, soft that have dynamics, details, bass and that are musical to listen to. That way I can sell the Pass Labs components and go with maybe a 50-100 wpc tube amp and maybe an Audio Aero CAP direct or a tube preamp. I know that I will loose maybe some bass with tube amps, etc., but the sound of tubes is very invitiing. I would like to stick with a stereo tube amp or mono blocks that can fit into a 25 x 25" space and not too many tubes. I need to go audition full range speakers to see what I like and then pick the amp.

All help is appreciated. I heard the Coincident Total Victories with Wytech amps. Audiomeca Mephisto CDP. The speakers were in a larger room than mine with bare floors, about 5 feet out into the room and there was no bass for 4x8 side firing woofers. I am going to go listen again in a week or so.

All help is appreciated.

Bigkidz- my room is similar size to yours. The Total Victory has prodigious bass, however the Wyetech (as fabulously pure as it is) just may not be quite enough power for you. Btw- which Wyetech did you hear? I know the Topaz very well, and it is a superb amplifier, but were you speaking about the Onyx monos? Anyways, whereever you heard the Total V's, I would suggest maybe moving them a smidgeon closer closer to the wall, bass may improve a bit- hard to say until you try it. Anyways, point is to hear the Total V's with a slightly higher powered tube amp (i.e. 50-60 watts with a good power supply), you may be surprised how closely they may fit your application...

Big, also would suggest Living Voice speakers that sound superb with SET amps. Good Luck and let us know!

Bigkidz-

Those are great speakers. I would just find a bigger amp. Many tube amp choices for you...BAT VK75SE? CJ Premier 140? Cary?

You might seek out "Twopippis" on a'gon, as she is very familiar with the entire Talon line and could give you suggestions.

btw, you upgrade to 31SE yet? it's very, very nice and i think better than the 50se i had loaned for a weekend.

KeithR