Listening room in Attic or Living room???


Before I spend 40-50 K on a high end system I want to make a space that will not present major problems from an acoustic matching point of view. I am still not decided on speakers (Vandy %A, Wilson WP & or Ariel 20T) The width of the living room is 13 feet 10 inches wide from base board to baseboard, about 35 feet long combining the dining room and living room and 9ft ceilings. This is new construction (thin sheetrock) but solid oak floor and a thick carpet (area rugs).

I could possibly put the speakers at the other end of the living room which is the entrance to the dining room, just in front of the two columns. This would minimize the open side wall on the other end but now how can I position the electronics to still allow an uncluttered walk through between the dining and living rooms. I suppose the CD and preamp could be to the side but how can the power amp or monoblocks be to the side? I know the speaker cables need to be the same length etc. I first thought about creating a shelf between the ceiling and the beam separating the two rooms but I don't know about heat buildup. The speaker cables would also need to be longer runs to come the 8 feet or so extra down to the floor level (just a crazy idea). I really don't want to partition off the two rooms (have to divorce wife).

As things stand, it is a long room. The speakers if positioned 7 feet apart would only be off the side walls by two feet. Is this enough? Please let me know what your thoughts are.

The second option is to finish the attic space (now no heat and a plywood floor) but opens to the second level of the house over the garage. I could build in acoustic treatment from the start but I don't know about the dimensions. The shape of the ceiling en face is trapazoidal. The ceiling height at the level of the horizontal rafters is 7 feet finished but this spans only 6 feet across. The beams then slope downward from there to one foot off the floor. The useable floor dimensions would be about 15 feet by 15 feet since the side walls slope downward from the 6 foot wide flat part of central ceiling. The actual plywood floor dimensions are 19 feet by 19 feet giving the room a big feel at the listening height. I don't know how such a relatively small cubic foot space would sound acoustically with the sloping side walls and reflections. With acoustic treatment perhaps this could be controlled. Any thoughts? I can email pictures of the space if it would help. Anyone have any dealings with RIVES Audio. Are they hype or really worth the investment?
dbk
You might ask someone like Rives. If you are going to spend 50k it is worth it. They have different levels of service some of which are in the 1-2k area.

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Rives is for real. They are very knowledgable people and have enough experience to justify their advice. I have spoken with them on the phone, but have not used them yet. I have a basement listening room now, but I'm planning an addition onto the back of the house. I would like to move the listening room upstairs, but I'm not sure of my ability to compromise with my wife enough to be able to do it. That's why I have not spent the money to use Rives.

The difficult issue with a dedicated listening room is maintaining harmony, and I don't mean in the listening room. It's not worth it to move into the living room/family room if it's going to cause domestic disharmony. Which is why I have my listening room in the finished basement. If you use the Attic Option you will not have a conflict with the wife. If you use the living room conflict is likely to arise.

How much conflict are you willing to live with, or how strong is your constitution?

Either way try http://www.rivesaudio.com If I knew where things were going to end up in my house I would have done it already.

If nothing else get their CARA software and see how things pan out on there.
The most important consideration is your wife. Does she enjoy music? If the system is in the attic, will she be up there with you? If not, this isolation could be a negative thing. If the system is downstairs, how does your wife feel about all of those electronics in the living room? She may be happy to have you upstairs and have the living room nice and neat. Her input is much more important than ours.
IMHO, to spend that kind of money and not obtain the services of a professional like Rives would be just plain foolish. The only other option might be something like the TacT or Sigtech, which might be used in conjunction with professinal acoustic advise as well. Unless you plan on moving in the near future professional acoustic advise might be the single best investment in audio you make.
Rives basic costs are less than the average componant cost sold on AudiogoN. They can get very expensive if they come to your house and act as a consultant while the building is taking place.

Their basic package assumes you are doing the work. They give advice and plans for building. All things considered Rives is quite inexpensive!

Unsound offers sound advice. Go with Rives and let the rest of us know what you think when it is done.