For Magnepans try the "Rooze" comfiguration


This setup is absolutley amazing. I can't wait to get home and tweak it some more. Check out the AA link.

Pete

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petewhitley
Eldartford,

This isn't the case, and I see the confusion.

The room is a few inches short of 28' wide. The speakers are 9' from the wall behind them, so they're firing across 19' onto the wall opposite. I'm sitting behind the speaker, looking through the speaker at the opposite wall which is approx. 25' away. I'm looking at the rear of the speaker, which is just around 5' away from me. Common sense suggests that the sound I hear will be from the rear of the speaker, just a few feet away. But this isn't how it works. The speakers appear not to have any sound coming from them at all. The soundstage forms on the wall which is 25' away from me. The depth of the stage is somewhere around 10-12'.
I will try to sketch out this arrangement tomorrow, but there is a sketch on the asylum that details what I am talking about quite well.
To describe this in words makes little sense, you have to hear it for yourself.

Rooze
Rooze...I saw several diagrams on AA, and they just confused me.

I think I know now what you are saying. You are most certainly hearing sound directly from the speakers, but somehow that sound is being combined with the reflected sound in such a way that its origin is obscured, and the total sound seems to come from elsewhere as you report. I wish I had a room unencumbered with furniture to try your setup.

Of course good stereo speakers will also disappear when you play a monaural signal, and the sound will seem to come from empty space between the speakers.
Rooze:

I'm curious.Are both walls drywall? I'm guessing you reversed the left-right wiring?
Rooze

I noticed the pictures of your listening room from before.

Perhaps you can post a photo of the new Rooze configuration for us to see?

Also, do you have any experience with Maggies having better bass when your back, as listener, is up against the wall?

If so, what happens to the bass when you are out in the middle, floating in this direct/reflected sea of sound?

Still curious, but confused.
Folks,
Below is a link to a sketch of the arrangement.
Again, looking at the sketch one would expect the sound to emerge from the rear of the speaker. If you position yourself carefully in both a lateral and longitudinal direction, the sound vanishes from the rear of the speaker and the stage forms against the wall at the opposite end of the room. It's a weird effect that takes a second or two to register. Eldartford, in many ways it sounds like the monaural affect that you mentioned, but mostly because the sound 'hangs in a space' against the back wall and does not appear to have a source.
The soundstage has all of the aspects of a 'normal' stereo soundstage, without the speakers! It has incredible depth, width and height - in a natural unbloated sense. It has accurate image placement, though not as tightly rendered as with the conventional setup. What makes it so out of the ordinary is the apparant absence of normal room anomalies such as bass boominess or slap echo. It sounds transparent and natural - musical, to put it another way.

Of course, the whole arrangement is not 'optimized' for this presentation. The only thing being moved from the conventional setup is the chair. I suspect that if one were able to optimize fully, without constraints on speaker/chair positions, then the sound could be amazing.

Here goes http://www.newaudiosociety.com/new-seat.jpg