Otto, I hoped someone would pick up on the Bordeaux comparison. I haven't tasted the '61 Latour. The '82 Petrus is monumental. Also recently had '82 Margaux(pure silk) and '82 Cheval Blanc(massive in cabernet franc). I recently lost out on winebid on a '61 Latour a Pomerol, but I have a 1927 Chateau d'Yquem on the way. Maybe we should start a thread,"What wine do you like to enjoy while listening?" BTW, I highly recommend Dow's 1977 vintage Port - exquisite! Just to rub it in a bit, I am currently cellaring an entire '82 bordeaux 1st growth horizontal collection. Also including Cos,Ducru, and Pichon. Cheers!