VPI 3D & 10.5i armwand compatibility


Can I mix between these armwands on the same single base/pivot ?

I have two 10.5i armwands for my VPI SSM Ref and am thinking of buying a 3D armwand to try out. HOWEVER I read elsewhere the 3D needs a different (supplied) pivot assembly. This implies I can't mix them.

ALSO there are older threads about your early experiences setting up and listening to the 3D which talk about possible future developments of the arm. Any comments on how that evolution is going ? I have a natural aversion to 'breaking trail'...heightened since my difficulties with rim drive (I'm now back to belts - 3 of them - and very happy).
rateourmover
VPI - thanks for that. I'll wait.

I decided to send my queries to Agon rather than directly to you guys because I know you are busy and usually take a while to respond.

HOWEVER - you may also have seen my counterweight weights thread (started same date) and can respond ? I need to be sure of the weight I need to balance a Lyra Dorian mono (6.4g). 100gm is the lightest I've seen but I don't know if that's OK - especially with the SoundSmith in place. At present I'm using a 'standard' weight (110+gm ?) and a head-shell weight - which I don't like doing.

If you can advise I can close that thread.

Many thanks.
What will be VPI's return/upgrade policy for owners of the original 3d arm who now desire a non-prototype design?
VPI's return/upgrade policy will be to charge you for whatever is required to make your arm work.

I went through 3 rounds of returns and reworks with VPI on my 3D arm
for a C3 and in the end the experience left me so exhausted that I have since
sold the arm as well as the table on Audiogon. I will not be purchasing anything else from VPI....

However:

The person who bought my arm read VPIs giant statement on the 3D arm page of their website that said "This tonearm is backwards compatible and will fit on all past and current VPI Turntables."

That is a bold faced LIE!

His fairly recent classic one has the arm base coming up from the arm mount,
not the platform and VPI's response to him??

"Give us 415.00 and we'll send you what you need to make it work"......
now I might get negative feedback on Audiogon because I can't take
the arm back......

The prototypes never end.......
The VPI 3D arm is a joke, and a perpetual prototype, sold and promoted on TOTAL HYPE!