@c Tubegrover, Hi, I apologize for offending you with my post, I relate to Broadstone very well, and understand what He is saying entirely, what I am saying is I was where He is now early in my audio years, Then, I got exsposed to what I thought was not possible in audio, what happened to me is what TbG said in his post, I also agree with TBG, I will not go back!, Broadstone is better off not listening to such systems and cables, He will keep all his money this way, He will not get the audio-nerversa disease that a few of us have!, cheers.