Kimber 8TC beater?

Ok ... I am going to do an experiment and will report back results.

I am going to buy some off the shelf 12 gauge romex and make up a paid of speaker cables. I'll even make a set of jumpers out of the scrap wire. As I said, I currently use Kimber 8TC cables.

I'm going to end this debate once and for all. LOL :)

@Loftarasa. Wow...Thank you so much for taking the time to explain things and in such great detail. I really appreciate your help.

I will be looking into getting the Mogami 3104...:)

Just a quick question....how does the Mogami compare with the Supra ply which I am currently using? Would it be a step in the right direction towards a fuller and bigger sound? How about imaging?

Thanks again.

Pc123v .... cool your jets until I finish my romex experiment. Pure copper ... ultra pure ... hyper pure. Dielectric properties of insulation. Reminds me of the Space Balls movie when the baddies went to "Ludicrous Speed." Voodoo. Snake oil. Bull sh*t.

The test will be my Kimber 8TC cables versus 12 gauge romex! I'm looking at a 15 foot run. I may try lamp wire too. Let the best wire win. :)

Pc123v - yes, I have/had both 3104 and Ply at the same time. Ply is nice. But too soft and polite.

3104 gives a bigger sound and is more detailed. It's still very neutral, though - no frequency band is hyped or muted. This makes for better long-term listening, with all kinds of recordings and music genres.

I would wholly recommend both TakeFive or Redco.
In Redco's custom cable widget, you have to choose "Multi-Channel" "Speaker Cable" -- to get the 3104, and that will get you ONE channel's (plus and minus for right or left).

Then do it all over again to complete your stereo pair (right and left).

07-13-14: Bifwynne
Pc123v .... cool your jets until I finish my romex experiment. Pure copper ... ultra pure ... hyper pure. Dielectric properties of insulation. Reminds me of the Space Balls movie when the baddies went to "Ludicrous Speed." Voodoo. Snake oil. Bull sh*t.

you might think that this is all bullsh$$ but some of it isn't!
I've tried Romex 14AWG wire as speaker wire while I was awaiting my speaker cables. Yes, it delivered an electricak signal from the amp to the speaker so I could listen to music but that's about all it did.
The purity of the copper used does make difference. Better brands of cables use OCC copper & I found that does make a difference.
Insulation is another big factor. Romex from HomeDepot or Lowes or Ace uses PVC insulation which has a very high dieclectric constant which I found muffled the sonics & made the imaging imprecise.
Yet another thing that works against us when we use heavy gauge wire is that the wire vibrates (mechanical vibration) when there is a music signal passing thru it. Rick Schultz of Virtual Dynamics (Canadian company that used to sell OCC copper based heavy gauge interconnects, speaker & power cables) spent a lot of time figuring out how to damp that vibration. His cables ended up being ultra-stiff & ended up being a pain to us but some of his upper tier cables were really very good sounding. I used Virtual Dynamics cables thru-out my system at one point (I still have his Nite Platinum & Revelation 1 power cables) so I have personal experience. Using a heavy gauge cable without damping is going to make your music sound dull (as I experienced).

I believe that you do not have to spend mega $ on cables but you do need to pay attention to the materials used & the design.
There was an excellent thread on cable design started in March 2013 (where Almarg also participated). I think it is very worth your time to read that thread - it has great info on cable design & what to look for:
http://forum.audiogon.com/cgi-bin/fr.pl?fcabl&1363313104&read&keyw&zz300+ways+