CAT Preamps vs Amps

CAT preamps are at least as great as the amps. I own both and i would never use another preamp with my JL2. people who say that the Ultimate is lean should look for the problems elsewhere in their systems. Indeed,it does not mask anything like some other colored tubed preamps do. I think with CAT gear, it is not about synergy and matches. If CAT preamp does not work in the system, something must be wrong.

It would work fantastic with your JL2, and not because of synergy. It's because it is utterly neutral and transparent. That's why it works with all good amps on the planet, tube or solid state.

I can reassure you that you have not heard how transparent your JL2 is until you hear it with SL1 Ultimate. You have not heard the low end of it either.

The only close competition to CAT was Jadis JP80 which is much more expensive. It will loose in the bass dapertment to CAT. Midrange would be a close call. I think the latest Ultimate is the best all around preamp reasonable amount of money can buy.
I take it back; unreasonable amount of money too.

Get the latest CAT and you will never look back.

Before I own my CAT SL1 ultimate mk2, I was using a ensemble DAC with built in pre amplifier.
Before i never could imagine what a change it would make to insert the CAT. The combination is wonderfull.
I agree with Gvatchna If CAT preamp does not work in the system, something must be wrong.

I own a pair of CAT jl3 sigs and have tried the conrad johnson art2,asthetix,nagra,pass and levinson and the CAT is the best match by far for these amps.the speakers I am using are the eidolon Diamonds.It just sounds more lifelike and natural.Hope this helps.

Gvatchna, Robertje and Strapper211,

Thanks for your responses. Since I am a very new owner of their Ultimate preamp, it is good to hear that based on your long-term experiences the CAT preamp is on par with their amps and that they are the best match. It seems that those who would disagree maybe having a mismatch elsewhere in their systems. Strapper's opinion is very informative since it is based on the evaluation of some very high-end brands/models and felt the CAT pre was still the best.

Thanks again. Let's see if we get some opposing views :)

no opposing view from my side. I've got an earlier version of the CAT SL1 - the Signature Mk3. This is also a simply excellent preamp, if I may say so.

if you look @ the development @ CAT, you'll notice that the preamp came 1st way back in 1986. There was no power amp @ that time. So, the SL1 has been refined over nearly 20 years to this day! I'm inclined to believe that the CAT preamp is just as musical, transparent, dynamic, etc, etc as their power amps. the CAT gear serves up music without any sugar coating & is one of the few pieces of gear that tries very hard to be true to the recorded playback medium. often I've read people chosing to stick w/ the CAT power amp & give up the preamp, if they have both, on the notion or observation or both that a CAT pre & power might be too much of a good thing in that both pieces are exacting in their sound hence together they would render the music in a too dry manner. Well, it's a personal choice - one man's 'too dry' music might be another's 'just right' music. Admittedly some/many people like their music coloured. So be it! So, it doesn't matter what these other people think of CAT preamps & what they chose to use in lieu. However, it's important to exactly note (when such info is offered/posted) why they opted to use another preamp & see if those criteria exist in your system as well &/or you have a very similar music-delivery taste. If so, you might be better off talking one-one w/ that member &/or trying that other preamp in your system. In the end, of course, select what's right for your system & your ear. It's a system built to suit your needs & not the critics'. FWIW. IMHO. YMMV.