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Theory about Cary amps and their reviewers

Cary is now one of the older tube companies around from the tube boom in the'90s. My experience with them has been very positive. I wonder if some of the criticisms of them - fat, not extended, slow, etc., are in fact relics of the first reviews in magazines which were so used to solid state and still in the "wattage race". I have heard Rockets and V12's in rock and home theater setting pulling duty that would put solid states to shame. I also notice you never really see those sorts of reviews anymore. Other than making the amps compatable with higher gain devices, so that they can have direct inputs from things like CD's with volume controls, have there been any fundamental changes though? I prefer the slightly older versions with the lower gain input myself, but I understand the rationale.
biomimetic
whoopadeedoo
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Cary's service is top notch IME. They are responsive and very interested in working out any reported problems you may have. The build quality is also first rate IME.

That said, Cary does sound "slower" and bloomier then a lot of other hi fi gear. A lot of people like the quintessential tube sound that is a hallmark of most Cary products. It's very enchanting and romantic. I've had the pleasure of listening to their modern designs as well as their older offerings (fwiw, I still own a 10 year old Cary SET).
biomimetic OP
252 posts
 

As thread-starter guy I think I did say something about specifics on problems, if you are going to post. We could all use the info, if it in fact exists. Everbody who has been at this a while has had at least one peice of bad gear...

Nako do you fnd your Rocket slow and bloomy? Mine isn't, actually, I wouldn't describe it as tubey at all, in response to Whoop.
arthursmuck
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I guess I'm an oddball, I actually went the solid state route in the Cary lineup with the CAD500MB. Not slow, not bloomy, really terrific amps that do everything very well. Service and interaction with them has been top-notch also. Also own a 303/300 and had an SLP98L, I've had no problems with any of their gear. I have been able to get easy access and lengthy advice from everyone there, including Dennis Had. I'm a fan.
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nrchy
2,124 posts
 
I had a pair of V12 monoblocks in my system for a month or so. They belonged to a former friend who bought a SS amp from me. He let me use them while I looked for a replacement.

I have never read a review of a Cary amp, but my results were similar to what you said reviews described. The amps were slow, lacking in dynamics, and did not fare well if they did not get enough rest between listening sessions.

I waited a long time for that 'tube magic' to appear. It never came close to magic and never really even reached 'musical.'

I would not spend a penny on a Cary product based on the poor performance I experienced in my system. I wanted them to be good, but they never really were.
duane
189 posts
 
Hello again. My experience was within the industry when I was hired by a couple of manufacturers to set up and "tweak" their systems for C.E.S. (At that time in Chicago.) While I was there I wondered around to see old friends and say hi to a few companies I sold at my store. One of the speaker manufacturers was co-exhibiting with Cary and they had showed up 2 days late, there pre-amp didn't work, and when they tried to get Dennis to fix it before the show started he slammed the door in their face and said "don't wake me till noon".
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