Krell Intergrateds..how come nobody likes em?


The same companies come up with Intergrateds...Classe, Plinius, Blue Circle, ML, SimAudio, YBA...just curious, how come no love for the Krell stuff? Is it harsh? Can somebody explain the sound to me? Don't hold any punchs, I didn't want to lure a bunch of Krell owners here and sugar coat there intergrateds.
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I sold them for a bit and while I would have rather brouhgt home a class A 200 or 300 this was what fit my budget.Has a lot of snap to it i.e. quick dynamics but you would need to match it with softer products as it does have a tendency to be strident.But class A/B or pure A there is notheing that has a "grip" on bass the way Krell does that is why for many years inthe 90's speaker manufacturers used them to demo speakers.Clean highs,good bass control but yes the mids especially tend to be "metallic sounding".Often times Krell can sound like a lab instrumnet not a musical one.But for $1K price a 300I can be gotten for it might not be a bad buy.Just get a set of wires to soften the nastibess.I sold them to some freinds and we had XLO and MIT cables but I would tell these freinds to get a set Cardas which work pretty well.All of this is of course dependent on what speakers you are going to use-do they need the current/watts offered and will they tame some of the negatives.I would never use Krell with say Maggnepan as they ruthlessly revealing but they worked oK with the B&W we sold since they were somewhat fogiving.Remember this the Krell can't suck since they sold a hellof a lot of them and that's why you see as many used as you do.
G'luck
Chazz
I know of a few people that like Krell integrateds. Have you listened to the 400xi? Also, your statement about the same companies coming up with integrateds doesn't make much sense. You're forgetting companies like Musical Fidelity, McIntosh, Cary, Jolia, Pathos, Chord, VAC labs, Mistal, Antqiue Sound Labs, Accuphase, Jeff Rowalnd, Naim, Marantz, Rega, Creek, Edge, and Bel Canto.
Agree with Chazzbo. I owned Krell KAV300i and it was a good amp, typical old Krell sound.
New Krell KAV400ix is better than 300i but, problem is that many people compare them with FPB( like FPB450Mcx) series which is in another class...
KAV400ix is currently cheaper than most of its competition( Plinius 9100 and 9200, etc.). If you matched them(KAV400xi or 300i) carefully you will get good results.
the krell, like the mac, the accuphase,and a handfull of other brands like spectral etc., is an iconoclistic company that builds a wonderful product. they are never the flavor of the month and don't need to be. no offense to the other brands you've named, but they all would like to have the loyal 'cult-like' following of krell instead of the phony reviews take buy them a little more time in the spotlight.
I have earlier owned one Krell KAV 300i and then even created a bi-amplification with the addition of a Krell KAV 150a. These where VERY good products for the money. Althought the 150a is quite rare, you should be able to find a 300i on the second hand market for a very interesting price. The sound is full, good dynamic, although lack the finess of "real" (more expensive) amps.
My old krell used to drive German Isophon loudspeakers with good result. I even tried them on "Prodigy" from Martin Logan. Good combination, although these loudspeakers deserved better,...why I changed...
Have fun,