Bombaywalla - thanks for the clarification, and indeed we do agree to
disagree still. I take exception with the idea that there is any need
whatsoever to be able to distinguish such nuances by analyzing their
technical origin in detail, as you seem to be doing. I do believe a person who
enjoys music can make the call what works best for their ears and their
budget without such an education as you suggest. Just as one can enjoy a
fine wine without knowing what exactly it is that makes one taste better than
another. You do not need the vocabulary, nor the knowledge, IMO to make
such things enjoyable, and, in my experience, such knowledge more often
takes me away from the enjoyment itself. As far as "reveling in 2nd rate
sound" and "dumbing" our fellow enthusiasts, that's about
as far from my intentions as you could stretch. Again, I don't think the
knowledge you offer as a direct response to what was originally posted, nor
what followed, though it may be sound information (pun intended), goes
towards responding in the spirit the original post as it was made. I don't
think "Ignorance" as you've defined it, is necessarily a bad thing. I
no more need to understand the differences in the suspension systems in the
Honda and Mercedes in order to determine for myself which ride I prefer
under specific conditions, as I do to understand global feedback, harmonic
distortion, or how to read and understand bench testing of components in
order to appreciate the differences between one component and another.
To me it still ultimately strikes of someone saying publicly, "Hey, I
traded down my Mercedes for an Accord and I was really surprised that I get a
big kick out of this car and I'm enjoying driving in a whole new
way"....and to this your response would equate to me to be "Well,
you should understand that the Accord you chose is bested by several other
choices in the same price bracket! You could have bought any of the
others." In other words, I just don't get it. In that very same spirit, one
could go through all of the posts here on Audiogon where folks are actually
happy with what they have, and explain that there are better versions of what
they have for the same, or not much more, money. Then go on to explain in
great detail just why they are better. What's the point? Yes, you can say it's
in the guise of educating others, but really, what IS the point?! If someone is
actually asking that kind of question, yes I understand completely then, but
no such question was asked here.
Marco
disagree still. I take exception with the idea that there is any need
whatsoever to be able to distinguish such nuances by analyzing their
technical origin in detail, as you seem to be doing. I do believe a person who
enjoys music can make the call what works best for their ears and their
budget without such an education as you suggest. Just as one can enjoy a
fine wine without knowing what exactly it is that makes one taste better than
another. You do not need the vocabulary, nor the knowledge, IMO to make
such things enjoyable, and, in my experience, such knowledge more often
takes me away from the enjoyment itself. As far as "reveling in 2nd rate
sound" and "dumbing" our fellow enthusiasts, that's about
as far from my intentions as you could stretch. Again, I don't think the
knowledge you offer as a direct response to what was originally posted, nor
what followed, though it may be sound information (pun intended), goes
towards responding in the spirit the original post as it was made. I don't
think "Ignorance" as you've defined it, is necessarily a bad thing. I
no more need to understand the differences in the suspension systems in the
Honda and Mercedes in order to determine for myself which ride I prefer
under specific conditions, as I do to understand global feedback, harmonic
distortion, or how to read and understand bench testing of components in
order to appreciate the differences between one component and another.
To me it still ultimately strikes of someone saying publicly, "Hey, I
traded down my Mercedes for an Accord and I was really surprised that I get a
big kick out of this car and I'm enjoying driving in a whole new
way"....and to this your response would equate to me to be "Well,
you should understand that the Accord you chose is bested by several other
choices in the same price bracket! You could have bought any of the
others." In other words, I just don't get it. In that very same spirit, one
could go through all of the posts here on Audiogon where folks are actually
happy with what they have, and explain that there are better versions of what
they have for the same, or not much more, money. Then go on to explain in
great detail just why they are better. What's the point? Yes, you can say it's
in the guise of educating others, but really, what IS the point?! If someone is
actually asking that kind of question, yes I understand completely then, but
no such question was asked here.
Marco