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Burned out hi fi salesman

Have any of you come across a burned out hi fi salesman? I was at my local dealer the other day and was talking to one of the sales guys. In my opinion he is damaged goods! According to him he has had all the equipment at different times one could imagine. He said that he came to the conclusion that all hi fi components are within 5 % of each other in terms of sound (All things being equal). The fact that he currently does not even OWN a stereo is not a good sign! How can you relate to your customers if you're not even into hi fi yourself? I would advise anyone to ask the sales person they are dealing with questions about his or her preference with repects to the equipment they themselves own. As I say, the gentleman I talked to was non caring, un-involved, bitter, etc... Don't make hi fi choices beased on the "Expert"advise of an individual such as this. The lesson for me? Ask questions about your sales person first........then ask about the various equipment! You'll have fun and make better choices! Cheers,

Nocaster.
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the_kid
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Cinematic Systems,

You are a salty fellow but made a couple of valid points.. If read my statement, the 5% applied to a certain level of equipmenet. Apples to apples. Sorry you don't like the Sonus Faber stuff. I personally am not crazy about the Dynaudio stuff. I guess that makes us even.

I could click on your system throw stones as you did with ease but it is not my style..

If you are in retail, you have been there too long...

KiD
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atmasphere
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I have a further 2 cents to add- 90% of what's out there really does not sound 5% different than its bretheren. However the remaining 5% can sound *so* much better that non-audiophiles from off the street can hear the improvement.

Sounds to me like the burned out salesman has yet to hear real, actually and truely decent equipment in the first place.

Another issue is that decent recordings are hard to come by since the advent of Pro-Tools. There are way too many 'notebook' mastered recordings out there that are dry, thin and uninvolving. Listening to too many of those will burn anybody out!
c5150
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I love this blame game . I see it everywhere. everbody needs to be right. In religion, science,polititics ,marriage.You name it. But if we come up with a good reason why...someone will come up with a better reason why.Until we get so many good reasons ,that we don't know why anymore.

So who do we blame now...Jew or Arab...greek or Turk.

Tubes...ss... Blame blame... You are not in a hobby or game anymore!?

dlstephenson
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Oh CS, Before I became a Audiogon Buyer and purchased my Valve amps I purchased all of my Audio equipment at Retail locations. I wish that Some Salesperson would of Recommended Tubes to me before. I feel I missed out for the last 10 years.

When I went to a local Retail Stereo location that advertised Cain and Cain loudspeakers not only did they not have any Cain and Cain products but when I asked about tube amps the Salesman was not even interested in selling me in his words SOFT sound.

So out to the Net for me, driven there by a Retail Audio shop. Oh well, I like it here and I have had great fun with all the Audiogon members that I have worked with.

To each his own however.
wgk
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That 5% is 99% of the emotional satisfaction you get when listening to a system that can produce that 5%, even 1%. It does'nt take much to put the music over the top and make that emotion come out. just my 2 cents.
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