Burned out hi fi salesman

I have a further 2 cents to add- 90% of what's out there really does not sound 5% different than its bretheren. However the remaining 5% can sound *so* much better that non-audiophiles from off the street can hear the improvement.

Sounds to me like the burned out salesman has yet to hear real, actually and truely decent equipment in the first place.

Another issue is that decent recordings are hard to come by since the advent of Pro-Tools. There are way too many 'notebook' mastered recordings out there that are dry, thin and uninvolving. Listening to too many of those will burn anybody out!

I love this blame game . I see it everywhere. everbody needs to be right. In religion, science,polititics ,marriage.You name it. But if we come up with a good reason why...someone will come up with a better reason why.Until we get so many good reasons ,that we don't know why anymore.

So who do we blame now...Jew or Arab...greek or Turk.

Tubes...ss... Blame blame... You are not in a hobby or game anymore!?

Oh CS, Before I became a Audiogon Buyer and purchased my Valve amps I purchased all of my Audio equipment at Retail locations. I wish that Some Salesperson would of Recommended Tubes to me before. I feel I missed out for the last 10 years.

When I went to a local Retail Stereo location that advertised Cain and Cain loudspeakers not only did they not have any Cain and Cain products but when I asked about tube amps the Salesman was not even interested in selling me in his words SOFT sound.

So out to the Net for me, driven there by a Retail Audio shop. Oh well, I like it here and I have had great fun with all the Audiogon members that I have worked with.

To each his own however.

That 5% is 99% of the emotional satisfaction you get when listening to a system that can produce that 5%, even 1%. It does'nt take much to put the music over the top and make that emotion come out. just my 2 cents.

ive alway's said that hifi is a hobby to us & business for dealer's.

Cinematic systems.

what are audiophile's at fault for,bad service & a poor attitude or snide comment's from owner's/salesmen,yep that'll fix them pesky customer's every time,i agree with your comment's about audiophile's being wishy washy but that has nothing to do with quality service.

you said audiophile's should stop worring about saving money & reward good service & stop being selfish all the time,what a stupid & self serving thing to say,stop trying to save money ! i wonder if you lead your life outside of audio that way rewarding good service as oposed to looking for the best price on home's,car's,furniture, ect.

IMO the veiw's you expressed in your post are exactly what's wrong in hifi with dealer's thinking we owe them a great life,if i walk into a show room & i'm treated with the slightest bit of disrespect or indifference i'm outta there never to return but if i'm treated like a valued customer then i'll look at what the dealer has to offer then it's up to him to sell me something.

i have a dealer near me who i like very much & after ive made my mind up on what i want i give him first dib's on making a sale,i tell him what i can get it for & ask for his price,if his price is close enough for me i buy it & if not im out the door with no hard feeling's.

the way i see it is that the dealer's who use the web to benifit their business are gracious & helpfull while the old school dealer's who refuse to jump onboard just keep getting angry & bitter,dont blame the customers blame the dealer's for not changing with the time's!

mike.