Audio Horizons TP 2.0 Preamplifier


Anyone famaliar with the manufacturer,and in particular
this pre amp.The credentials and testimonials seem
impressive.The advertised 10 day audition is appealing.
markwatkiss
Grant,
I'm not so sure yet that the issue is with the amp interaction. It might be just a coincidence that we both share sister amps. I am going to take an educated guess that based on my experience(with changing out the output caps, experimenting with different brands and values, as well as with many smaller bypass caps)that there might be a phase anamoly or irregularity with the new output caps and the solen bypass caps. In the TP 2.0 version with upgraded Hovland caps, rated at 4.7uf, I tried different values of the same Hovland cap( 1uf,2uf,3.3uf, and 4uf) None sounded as good as the 4.7uf value which Joseph was using. This lead me to believe that Joseph knew what he was doing and had pretty good ears. I later tried various Audiophile-type caps( Dynamicaps,V-caps) with same and different values and always came back to the 4.7uf value. For some reason, this value worked best with my VAC amps and sounded the best to me. Initially, I preferred the V-caps( 4.7uf oil-impregnated) because they just had more life and dynamics to them. But after a while there was this over-warmth and smoothing effect which robbed the music of proper attack to my ears, so I eventually went back to my trusty Hovland caps. It was when I recently found a new power cord line, Fusion Audio) that these really brought out the life and realism of my system, especially the TP 2.0. Everything finally just "clicked" in. Based on my faith of Joseph's ears and work, I decided to try the new upgraded version and that is where I am now after about 130 hours of burn in. One of the things that I noticed when I was experimenting with different caps and bypasses, the preamp never, and I mean never, sounded right with the bypass caps, no matter what value. Every bypass cap caused some type of phase anamoly which skewed the frequency response in an unnatural way. Depending on the value of the bypass, this skewing ,or plateau-effect, if you will, took away that natural balance and breath of life from the music. My TP 2.0 sounded its best when only one value cap alone was used in the outputs. Ultimately, as imperfect as the Hovland 4.7uf is, it sounded the best in the circuit of the TP 2.0. Joseph got it right the first time around, IMHO.
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Stltrains,
I'm very happy for you that the TP 2.1 preamp has worked out so well you in your system. Enjoy the music, my friend.

Grant, I might have spoken too soon. You have a point about a possible impedance mismatch with our amps. More to come.
The wife and kids are gone tonight all day Friday. I have the day off also!! I am listening to music late into the night and loving it. No doubt the 2.1 is coming into its own in my play room. It has been on with loud music all day and night thus far. Best sound I have had in my room.

My Belles Reference 350 specs are as follows. This is for Tvad to help me understand how these numbers mate with the AH preamp.

"Input sensitivity 1.98 for rated power"
"Input impedance 50,000 ohms"

Tvad, I think speaker wire also impacts impedance?

Sherod, I am staying tuned as I feel kinda bad as I think you decided on the upgrade based on my comments. I sure hope in works out to your complete liking.

Bill

As the calming of the seas are upon us, lets take a deep breath and wait for Uncle Joseph to respond to all our speculative discussion.

Sherod, I do not believe your preamp is broken in yet. I would try and use voice recordings to see how the midrange changes over time. Like fine wine it has to "mold" before you can enjoy it. Trust Joseph and his upgrade just a little more.