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how would an entry-level tube system compare?

Hi all,

I'm looking for advice on the following situation as I move into the tube world for the first time.

My current non-audiophile, lo-fi system: an old Sony 100W receiver and JBL S36 monitor speakers. 75% of the music I listen to is driving and bass-heavy (techno, house, electronica, hip-hop, rock). On this system, the sound is OK, but I can crank it (I mean _really_ crank it), which I like to do, and the bass is there, which I need.

I'm now planning a move into the hi-fi world. Although my musical tastes would suggest solid-state and big watts, I'm very curious about tubes. For budget and space reasons, I'm looking at integrated tube amps in the <$1500 range (from Cary, Onix, Cayin, Rogue, Eastern Electric, Shanling, VTL, PrimaLuna, and others).

I'm sure any of these tubes systems will take the quality of sound of my music to a new level. My concern is whether they'll be able to match the power, drive, and volume, of my current lo-fi system. Can a <50W tube system shake the house?

As for speakers, I'm still evaluating, but had not necessarily committed to high sensitivity ones. Should that be a requirement?

Thanks in advance for your thoughts and advice.
defiantscientist
raquel
841 posts
 
Tube amps need high quality output transformers to have a chance of sounding right on low impedences speakers, and the sad fact is that good output transformers are very expensive.

Tube preamps and solid-state preamps tend to cost roughly the same for a given quality level, but because of the cost of output transformers in tube amps, not so with tube and solid-state amps (this would thus hold true for integrated amps).

In short, my experience and my advice is that if your speakers dip below 4 Ohms (most do these days), you are best off pairing a decent solid-state amp with a tube preamp. A lot of people buy them, but a tube amp on the cheap is just that.
yohjo
83 posts
 
Stick with ss for your taste in music.
ghasley
2,497 posts
 
What is your budget and are you going to need a source? You can go alot of ways here and have a lot of fun doing so. Give us an idea of the $$ you are willing to spend so we can help.

Cheers.
mrtennis
3,295 posts
 
be careful when mating a tube pre amp with a solid state amp.

there is a possibility that dc from a tube preamp may damage the solid state amp and speaker system.
aroc
760 posts
 
Not worthwhile for you based the type of tube-based gear you are considering. You'd be better off borrowing some all-out-$$$ tube gear from a friend or audio club member. I thinking is that cheap gear will not impress you. (notice there is a fine line between cheap and inexpensive)
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