Warm and Detailed S.S. Amp?


I currently own a Modwright preamp and a Pass Labs X150 amp. I really enjoy these components but, I wish the Pass amp had more warmth in my system. What amps have the warmth of tubes but are as detailed and as controlled as this Pass amp. I can't afford the .5 series of Pass amps. I previously had a CJ MF-200 amp and PV-11 preamp in my system, which was much warmer, but not as clean and detailed. I'm looking to spend about $2K used. Thanks!
jeffjazz
i would like someone to explain how one can perceive warmth and detail from a stereo system or component.

I'll take a stab at that. My guess is that most are using the word "warmth" as the common metaphor frequently used here and elsewhere to describe a certain coloration of the upper bass and lower midrange, just as you've surmised. The 'detail' may be coming through elsewhere throughout the range, while the region that primarily defines the descriptor is being slightly softened, colored or distorted (however you want to look at it). As in another thread I'd point out that we are all just struggling to put words to describe something each of us perceives rather uniquely and individually. They are hardly adequate in most cases, but I'd say the general consensus in responses here reflect commonly held observations in many cases. Certainly I can say they do in the case the ones I've heard myself; Pass Aleph, Odyssey, Plinius, McCormack. Now please just don't start talking about "Accuracy" or I'll blow a fuse!

Marco
Hey Marco, Warm in relationship to what! Maybe that upperbass lower midrange 'emphasis/coloration' is actually not either, but represents the sound of live music. :-)

Just kidding, sort of. BUT one's description is always relative to their experience. Personally speaking, I'm one of those guys who likes a bit of that bloom, just a bit now. But its interesting to read reviews and users comments made by folks which describe contemporary stuff with which I'm fairly familar and consider anything but 'warmish' in any aspect. I cringe when I hear some one describe some popular tube amps, and many SS amps, as having any 'warmth' at all. I wonder sometimes what are they comparing them to! Gives me aural chills. Burrrrrrrr :-)
I did have the McCormack .5 stock amp on have to compare to my CJ MF-200 amp. The McCormack did have some bloom to it, But I still preferred the CJ since it was warmer and just as detailed, and a not as dry sounding from what I remember.
The sound I am looking for is natural warmth, as in live. I'm a musician, and I know what live is! If it errs on one side I'd take slightly too fat over thin. Jusat a little bloom suits me well. The combo Modwright pre, Pass X-150 and my speakers leans too lean :). I was also thinking about a hybrid amp. You think a VanAlstine, or a Butler amp would work?
Thanks again guys!!!
I'm impressed with the Butler amps. A nice affordable (used) hybrid OTL design. They'll provide some warmth, without sacrificing too much in the process.