Thanks everybody found a vtl 6.5 and picked it up. It is great. Some very refined sounds going on. But there is all they warn in tubing out. So far with a brand new amp one tube blew and replaced and with the pre I am being told that the tubes might need to be changed because I am getting a little bit of noise when nothing is playing. I thought it was hard choosing types of equipement But Ill be damned there are a ton more choices when it comes to tubes.
