How many us a Line Conditioner with a Big SS Amp


How many us a Line Conditioner with a Big Solid State power amplifier ? Such as a Big Threshold, Pass Labs, Krell, Levinson.

I am still not sure on using a line conditioner on my big power amps.

Thank you for your help.
Joe
joefama
I had a similar experience with power amps and some of the conditioners mentioned. Two different amps (BAT VK150 tubes and Boulder 2060=qualifies as big (a)SS amp) and 2 different line conditioners (Shunyata hydra 8 and Running Springs Duke). Interestingly during this process I added dedicated lines (20A) for each component. I found that the Shunyata made the BAT amps sound worse. I then added the dedicated lines and the sound was improved. Retried Shunyata and worse again. Now have Boulder, initially without conditioning and now with RSA Duke. I cannot tell the difference with or without the Duke yet. Still sounds great; neutral powerful and articulate. During my frustration with the Hydra, I spoke to the folks at Shunyata several times (very nice and helpful group), they always said (contrary to an earlier post) that the Hydra 8 should perform better than the Hydra 2 on power amps. I got the same response from RSA when deciding whether to put my Jaco on the front end (or on the theater which has more stuff) or to use a Duke because I only need 2 outlets for transport and preamp. They told me that the 2 units were the same, one just had more outlets.
Bflowers, it sounds like you used the Duke on the big monblocks, did you happen to try the Jaco on the monoblocks? Any differences?
I've tried the Duke, and it is very good, but I haven't heard the Jaco yet.

Also, thanks for mentioning the Hydra 8, so at least we know what model you used. Yes, this should be comparative with the RSA Jaco. Now, is it safe to assume that you used the RSA Mongoose (modified Cardas GR) power cord for the RSA conditioners?
For clarification purposes, what power cord did you use with the Hydra 8?
Yes, I use the Mongoose with all of the RSA's. I haven't heard anyone mention a cord that might work better. I used Shunyata Python Helix alpha's with the Hydra. As I mentioned in my previous post, I have a Jaco and 3 Dukes. I asked the folks from RSA which I should put on my 2 channel front end (which is by far the most important to me) and they told me the Duke and Jaco are the same with the exception of the number of outlets. Thus, I use the Duke.
Thanks for sharing your experiences. So you didn't try the Jaco on your amps then, correct?
FWIW, I've never heard the Jaco. I've had the RSA Duke w/ Mongoose, as yes the RSA products come with a cord, so this is makes comparisons difficult because Shunyata's do not come with a cord. So to some degree the performance is dependent on the cord. Anyway, IMHO, I felt the Hydra 2 w/ Anaconda Alpha cord and the RSA Duke w/ Mongoose both were the best conditioners that I've heard with high powered amps. Personally, I didn't detect any current limiting with either of these in place.
Obviously these will be system synergy dependent choices, just like cables or power cords. There is no absolute best, just what works best for you.

The Duke/Hydra 2 performed much better with power amps in my system than conditioners from Monster, Audio Magic, PS Audio, BPT, and Tara Labs. I would like to try a Walker Audio Velocitor 'S' though.

John
Jmcgrogan2, what difference you heard with your amps into Hydra2? You are using Anaconda power cord.
What is the difference between:
1) your amp with Anaconda power cord plugged directly into the wall
and
2) your amp still with Anaconda power cord plugged into Hydra2 w/Anaconda