Opportunity to buy the best Preamp... but which?


On the tube front... AR Ref3 vs. CJ ART3 vs. VL TL-7.5 vs. Wavac PR-T1?

Or on the SS front... Burmester 808Mk5 vs Dartzeel NHB-18NS vs Krell Evolution2 vs MBL 6010D vs Halcro DM10?

My preference would be a neutral tube based model.

Any opinions?

Andrew
stevecortez
NO Baranyi, I have not heard the ref 3. I have heard the previous ref series and for my tastes a little too forward and closer to SS sound than I would like.
An audio buddy of mine in Melb owns a suptratek and he likes it a lot, however I live in Sydney, so have never heard it. They suptratek guy, Mick is based in Perth, which is 4000 miles away, so he might as well be in the USA :)
Hi Downunder,

I have not heard the Ref. 3 in my own system, but, I've heard it at shows and dealerships. It is much less analytical, dry and lean sounding than prior ARC linestages (other ARC linestages sounded more "solid state" than almost any solid state gear to me). I don't know how the Ref. 3 compares to the CJ ACT 3, but I bet the sound is now much closer than in the past.
But now there is a MBL dealer in my country , what about the MBL preamplifiers 6011D or 5011
In absolute terms, the 6011 then the 5011.

But, I really can't tell what you need: i.e. both are very versatile and practical with lots of functionalities and... good. So, you may not need a 6011.
Both are exquisitely engineered by the way.
I would also *assume* both are better than the Capitole's embedded pre... but don't know. Really, you must try them.
HI Larry
I would hope the cj ART3 at $25k would bring something unique to the musical equation that the original ART or REF3 don't currently bring :-)
Hi Downunder, there are at least 5 other tube preamps I can think of that will do that. If I think about it, I can probably name more. Any reason why you limit yourself to the CJ?