Considering Int. Amp w/ limited features NEED HELP

I assume you mean sub output. You don't need one. Most subs provide a speaker level input. You just run a second set of speaker cables from your amp to the sub. You can even use the same speaker terminals you're using for your spakers.

Good SYSTEMS don't need tone control.

The Qinpu A-1.0X has tone controls, puts 100 WPC into 8 ohms and 160 WPC
into four, gets stellar reviews and has a remote. I think it may also have an
output for a sub.

The Qinpu A-1.0X has tone controls, puts 100 WPC into 8 ohms and 160 WPC into four, gets stellar reviews and has a tone control. I think it may also have an output for a sub.

Soulgoober, as I said in an earlier post ... I know exactly where you are since I was at the same place about a year ago. My research started with AudioReview.com and then migrated over here to A-gon. So many choices, and constantly finding out about something new; wanting to make just the right decision without going through the time, expense, and hassle of returning merchandise. I ordered (and returned)Axiom speaker. I installed and later gave away (to my daughter who moved to school) a pair of Ascend Acoustic speakers. I've tweaked, changed, and re-arranged my whole set-up. There have been countless hours spent trying to understand the numbers behind amplifier ratings and specs. What I can tell you is this: at some point one has to take the plunge and listen for oneself. Reviews can only tell us so much. Also, by constantly looking (or listening as it were) for something better, we confine ourselves to terminal upgrade-itis. It's never quite right, and there's always something better.

Here's the experience of a fellow A-goner:

http://forum.audiogon.com/cgi-bin/fr.pl?vbudg&1192817636&read&3&4&

If you believe the numbers ... power rating, Signal-to-Noise ratio, etc ... the Outlaw series compare very favorably to gear costing many times more. This is the reason I chose the 200 WPC Outlaw M2200 mono-blocks. I've listened to amps in the $20K range and - though not directly an A/B comparison - the improvement is so slight/subtle as compared to the Outlaws. In fact, a close personal acquaintance was by last night. He's an accomplished pianist and owner of a higher quality Yamaha Grand. We were listening to a piano solo; and his compliment to me was how realistically my system reproduced the right tone and timbre for the piece.

If you get the Outlaw Integrated, pair it up with a TRL modified CD changer, use some decent aftermarket power cords and I/C's (Signal Cable is good at modest prices ... though there are a couple of others - Element Cable and Speltz) ... this will give you a very nice system IMHO. Add a few tweaks and then enjoy the music!

Think about Cambridge Audio Integrated. Very well reviewed, very nice amps. Ample power. Audiophile sound for cheap. It has treble and base knobs. Remote control. BTW you can add a subwoofer by just using the pre-outs (L/R stereo) that most any integrated or preamp has. You just use the sub's crossover. This is a different approach than the one suggested above using speaker level inputs on the sub.