Lightspeed Attenuator - Best Preamp Ever?


The question is a bit rhetorical. No preamp is the best ever, and much depends on system context. I am starting this thread beacuase there is a lot of info on this preamp in a Music First Audio Passive...thread, an Slagle AVC Modules...thread and wanted to be sure that information on this amazing product did not get lost in those threads.

I suspect that many folks may give this preamp a try at $450, direct from Australia, so I thought it would be good for current owners and future owners to have a place to describe their experience with this preamp.

It is a passive preamp that uses light LEDs, rather than mechanical contacts, to alter resistance and thereby attenuation of the source signal. It has been extremely hot in the DIY community, since the maker of this preamp provided gernerously provided information on how to make one. The trick is that while there are few parts, getting it done right, the matching of the parts is time consuming and tricky, and to boot, most of use would solder our fingers together if we tried. At $450, don't bother. It is cased in a small chassis that is fully shielded alloy, it gets it's RF sink earth via the interconnects. Vibration doesn't come into it as there is nothing to get vibrated as it's passive, even the active led's are immune as they are gas element, no filaments. The feet I attach are soft silicon/sorbethane compound anyway just in case.

This is not audio jewelry with bling, but solidly made and there is little room (if any) for audionervosa or tweaking.

So is this the best preamp ever? It might be if you have a single source (though you could use a switch box), your source is 2v or higher, your IC from pre-amp to amp is less than 2m to keep capaitance low, your amp is 5kohm input or higher (most any tube amp), and your amp is relatively sensitive (1v input sensitivity or lower v would be just right). In other words, within a passive friendly system (you do have to give this some thought), this is the finest passive preamp I have ever heard, and I have has many ranging form resistor-based to TVCs and AVCs.

In my system, with my equipment, I think it is the best I have heard passive or active, but I lean towards prefering preamp neutrality and transparency, without loosing musicality, dynamics, or the handling of low bass and highs.

If you own one, what are your impressions versus anything you have heard?

Is it the best ever? I suspect for some it may be, and to say that for a $450 product makes it stupidgood.
pubul57
Devilboy, I have a pair of the 10db Rothwell's, and as measured with my not particularly accurate analog multimeter the series resistor has a value of about 21K, and the shunt resistor has a value of about 9.5K. As you realize and as George has confirmed, the 470K input impedance of your amplifier certainly presents no issues. (As you no doubt realize, the attenuators should be placed directly at the input connectors of the amp, so that there will be no interaction between their output impedance and cable capacitance).

With the attenuators so located, and driven by the LSA via a short cable, the LSA would see a load impedance of about 30K. I suspect that is not an issue either, based on the assumption that the impedance "looking back" into the LSA is essentially resistive and does not vary significantly as a function of frequency, given that you will be driving it with a solid state DAC having low output impedance. Hopefully George will confirm that assumption.

You will not be able to drive your amp to full power, though, even with the LSA turned up all the way, as 10db attenuation will reduce the DAC's 2V maximum output to about 0.63V.

For most volume control settings of the LSA, btw, the attenuation resulting from insertion of the "10db" Rothwell's will be more like 11 or 12db, because the impedance "looking back" into the LSA will sum together with the Rothwell's series resistor.

Concerning the sonic effects the Rothwell's may have under properly impedance matched conditions, I'm not using them with the VAC Renaissance 70/70 MkIII amplifier I currently have, but I noticed no adverse effects when I previously used them with a lesser quality EL34-based Paxthon amplifier.

Regards,
-- Al
If the Rothwell is 9.5k shunt to ground and the amp is 470k input, any preamp will then see 9.3k. Not good for any passive or tube active.

Cheers George
10-11-11: Devilboy
Jeez, if 470K isn't enough, what the hell is?
I think you may have misread our posts. :-)

The 470K is not an issue, as George and I both indicated.

Regards,
-- Al