Passive Preamps


I'm curious about passive preamps. Has anyone tried a passive preamp in their system?
128x128mdeblanc
I agree with Phaelon.Passives are a little to cool and the lack bloom of higher end actives
If you want bloom and realistic sound from a passive, a TVC or autoformer is the way to go. Like having your cake and.......

Shakey
The passive preamps I've tried, lack 'drive', 'dynamics', 'soundstageing'-- relative to active preamps,to such a degree that the music is, by comparison uninteresting to me. To explain...
I'll never forget the first, at the time I experienced what I considered a great preamp, the conrad johnson Premier 3. It had such terrific tonal shadings, low level resolution, adding to soundstage placement--as well as bass drive. Even the dryness/richness of the double reeded instruments on large orchestral works, came through with such a visceral sense.
Then lets come forward in time to the Gryphon L1 (I believe was the model number) circa 1991--possessing two rather heavyweight outboard power supplies, one per chanel--a true dual mono unit. That remarkable beautiful and musically superior preamp(at that time) the very best control over amps that I had ever heard. It was so remarkable, that I could pair it, with the really inexpensive $595 Adcom GFA-555 and shock audiophiles out of their chairs. It was truly remarkable piece.
The point of noticing this is that the passives were the antithisis of this kind of potential.
If I can, I'll finish by saying that, if music were a canvas, a painting, a great preamp makes the work, a Monet, full of life and shadings and wonderful vivid colors--with passives being, to me, the polar opposite, a rather mundanely done water color--washed out, lacking that snap and pop of reality and excitement.
As always, I haven't hear everything, someone may very well have had a much difference experience.
Good listening to all.
This is a great question BTW.
Larry
Can't say I agree with all that is being said here based on my experiences.

I agree with Phaelon. Passives are a little to cool and the lack bloom of higher end actives.

Well isn't that the point to some extent? Just pass the signal, no colorations. If you want bloom by all means get a nice tube preamp.

I'm using two passive preamps right now with a third on the way. One is an autoformer volume control using the Slagle-man modules jointly designed by Dave Slagle and John Chapman. The other uses opto-coupler technology and was designed by an Aussie named George Stantscheff (Lightspeed attenuator). Opto-coupler technology is not new to audiophile components. Today Dartzeel uses it and Melos used it previously. Even Nelson Pass has published a schematic for a passive preamp using this technology. On another note you can buy a pair of Atma-sphere M-60 monoblocks with a passive volume control option that Ralph Karsten offers. I'd love to try that set-up sometime.

Shakeydeal has a point as well. Kevin Carter at K&K Audio built me a passive TVC using the S&B MkI transformers which in his opinion, and I concur, exhibited a nice touch of warmth.

All of these passives deliver dynamics in spades and a very nice sound stage in my system. In the case of the Lightspeed the purity of the signal being passed is mind boggling at times (all for $500). Passive preamps have replaced very nice active preamps such as a Joule Electra LA-100 MkIII and JRDG Capri in my system. Of course my front end components and amp have a say in this too, not to mention room set-up. A passive preamp in a passive friendly system can be a thing of beauty.
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