Integrated vs pre/power


Hi my friend overseas is considering the convenience of a integrated vs a pre/power. His speakers are very efficient.

Some of the integrated's he is considering are the Simaudio 700i, Boulder 865, Gryphon Diablo.
For pre/power he is looking at the Herron VTSP3A/Monoblocks, or the Ayre 5series combo.

will the pre/power always come out ahead, and in what areas?
celticsfan1
I started with integrateds to save time and money, but drifted towards separates as time went on. Now if I want to change my amp, I don't have to change my preamp.

The nice thing about an integrated is that it's all in one piece, one chassis; the bad thing about an integrated is that it's all in one piece, one chassis.
No Stan. Are you,again? I still have the nasty e-mails you sent me reverend. Do you really want to go there?
Of all the items listed above, the Gryphon is the clear winner in my humble opinion.
A few years ago, I did an extensive A/B/C/D/ comparison using the predecessor to the Diablo, the Callisto 2200, I believe.
I compared it on THIEL 7.2's, PipeDreams 18's, Martin Logan...(13K, forget the model), so it was a test of several types of speakers. I compared the Gryphon to the Ayre/Ayre, Ayre/CJ, McIntosh amp/Preamp, Krell FPB 600/Krell preamp...just about all combintations of in store gear that 'matched up' as worthy combinations.
The Gryphon won, not only in my appraisal, but to everyone else who I polled informally.
The Gryphon to me, has the exact right blend of power/finesse, soundstage, musicality, imaging, detail, pace, rhythm...you name it. The stuff just sounds magical.
It's a shame that Fleming Rasmussen has a h.o. for America.
I think they could do very well in this market with worthy distribution and committment, something they've never had.

Go with the Gryphon, it's magic.

Good listening,

Larry