Jolida 502 KT120 tube swapping


Having been told by the nice people at Jolida that the 502 transformer can handle the KT120's "filament requirements", I wondered if any Jolida-philes out there have tried them in either the 502BRC integrated or 502P (what I have) power amp, as they're apparently similar circuits. I'm tired of reading about how groovy the KT120 is and plan to try 'em eventually just to stop the madness and have some extra tubes around.
wolf_garcia
The resistors I mentioned was not part of the upgrade. I'm sorry I was just trying to help you improve the amp.

I would be careful putting the KT120's in this amp. First they draw more current and this could hurt the power transformer with extended use. The current draw from a KT88 is 1.6A. According to the Tungsol data sheets they draw between 1.7A and 1.95A. It doesn't sound like much but it could be enough to fry the transformer over time.

Secondly these are not the same tubes. KT88 and KT120 have different operating conditions. Yes they both have 6.3v heaters and the tube pins are the same. But there is more to a tubes operation. If your amp is not set-up to run the KT120 it will not be running these tubes at their best operating point.

There are enough new KT88's to choose from. Also your input tubes can both be improved on. IMHO Roll a few and find out.
Don't be sorry. I appreciate the feedback and respect your technical tweak choices, although you assume I have the ability to install, match, and adjust this stuff when I rarely venture past soldering something that looks unsoldered. That said, I'll look into your suggestions and see if I trust myself to do the surgery. I have spoken to everybody but the janitor at Jolida at length about the KT120 having enough current available to not melt my amp, and they assure me it's overbuilt to easily handle the 120s. If it blows up they'll fix it (at least for the next 2 years). Along with the KT120 appealing to me as an amusing tweak, I'll certainly be trying whatever KT88s seem interesting also. I do plan to mess with the input tubes (I roll tubes in my guitar amps from time to time and do notice obvious differences)...I mean really...this is the entire point of this amp for me...I can mess with it! In any case, thanks again for the feedback...nice to know there's a braintrust out there.
SO...I put the KT120s in the 502P..and they work swimmingly. It is a LARGE tube in every way. Just more of everything...power (hard to say how much, but it's there), better, sweeter treble...more overall tonal range across the board. They do run hotter of course, but highly recommended at least until my amp blows up! (Talked to Jolida again and Mister Allen says no worries...and he's the warranty man!).
Hey Wolf

In order to get the KT120 into the Jolida 502P did any special modifications have to be done to it so that KT120s could be used in place of the 6550s? Was it just drop 'em in run the EZ-Bias? Also where did you get the KT120 tubes? The more I look at the Jolida 502P and reading about it I keep thinking about getting one.

Thanks
Other than the "upgrades" they did on the amp before shipping there are no mods...I just dropped the 120s in and I bias them to the 502P specs and check it with my trusty Radio Shack meter just for the hell of it (a compulsion, but I'm getting better at not burning my fingers while poking the probes into the test port), even though the "ez bias" works well...In fact, now that the KT120s have settled in it sounds better than I noted in my last post, just fuller and brighter. Highly recommended! I bought the 4 "matched" tubes from "Ctech" on Ebay mostly because of their price, and they're on the East Coast so they shipped really fast. I don't think there's anything to risk buying one of these amps as they seem to be an insane bargain for something that sounds this good.