Ayre, wow


On the hunt for a new amp + pre-amp for my Mani-2's. This weekend I listened to a pair of Dynaudio Confidence C1's hooked up with some locally manufactured speaker cable to a Ayre K5/V5 combo. CDP was also an up to date Ayre model.

The sounds was very delicate, natural. On a Mozart piano piece, I could hear the pianist touch the keys. Norah Jones invited me for lunch -- had she been there physically as well. Every syllable of her songs was audible. Take Five in the middle has the piano vs. drum piece. It was like watching a tennis game -- left, right, left right -- the separation was sublime. And shivers when the sax kicked back in after that piece.

Then I listed to a McIntosh MA6600, an integrated. In comparison to the Ayre, it was like somebody had switched from ultralinear on a tube amp to triode mode. The McIntosh sounds great but the music is more around, less from the speakers -- it sings around. Almost like hitting the "surround" button on a walkman of old. Quality still very good, but this "surround" thing overrides, to my taste, the music. The Ayre is so much more subtle, delicate.

Next try will be at my place with the Mani-2's. Cannot wait...with what I heard and knowing that Totum considers the Ayre one of the "really good ones" for the Mani-2....magic may be just around the corner!

Anybody has suggestions for other combos I should try? Please send over thanks!

Ari
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I have heard neither of the amps you mentioned. But I prefer the speakers to disappear, rather than the sounds coming from them. For me, that is the magic of "stereo".
But, to each his own.
I can't offer advice on Ayre versus McIntosh but the Dynaudio C1 is my favorite small speaker of all time.

C1 are absolutely amazing on large amps, sometimes outshining much larger speakers. Expensive for their size but worth it to my ear.
No surprise a variety of quality sounds with those Dynaudios! I would expect them to sound much as you describe on various amps.

I've heard the Mani's (off large SS Mc amps) and liked them a lot but never extended listens or comparison with the Dyns. I am interested to hear your findings.
Hi Ari-
I had a long, mostly enjoyable search for the right amp/pre-amp combo for my Mani-2's. I finally settled in, very enjoyably, with a Cary CAD-120S Mkii and a Rogue 99 pre. As you probably are aware, the Mani's are quite power hungry. I auditioned several less powerful tube amps all of which had positive attributes, but ultimately left voids I found unacceptable. Once I kicked up to the Cary, I knew I was on the right road. Two pre-amps later and I'm now sitting right where my ears want to be. I did try two non-tube amps, a Parasound A-21 which had wonderful bass control but was too bright for my tastes, and a W4S STI500 which has incredible detail. I still own it and fire it up occasionally. I found the Mani's were not the easiest speakers to pair with tubes if the budget isn't there, but I was patient, bought used and am now very happy (but I'd love to hear some Rogue M-180's).
Jerry