Avalon Eidolon Diamond vs Revel Salon 2

Yes, Bo1972, we know you have superhuman hearing and can hear things differently and better than normal humans with the best human hearing. You have told us of your superior ability many times. I am surprised you have not been hired by musicians, musical instructors, and loudspeaker manufacturers. Given you have such gifts, it is amazing you remain so humble about them.

Where can I hear your system? If I sold all audio I own and bought your system components I would save hundreds of thousands of dollars AND have better sound!

I live in Holland.I am addicted to music since I was 6. It is not about my system. I am thinking in tools. An amp, source, cable, speaker etc is a tool for me. I label all tools. All parts were you Judge a sound system at I call the properties/talents of a tool. Wenn you know the poperties it will become more easy to use them in a system. In 15 years I have done hundreds of tests with different tools in audio and in vision. This gives a lot of information. This give me more freedom to adapt a system. The first thing I do for clients is only change the place of there speakers. Normally withb a few cm's maximum. I let a client play his favorite music for about 25 min. After this I use a few cd's to adapt it to the acoustic of the room. And to get the right dimensions of instruments and voices. After this I ask the person to play the same numbers as wenn he started. Then I often see a very big smile on there faces. I say: and this is for free. It is about using the right stuff to get a very high level in sound. In the last 2,5 years I did a lot of testing with roomacoustic measurements. I developed my own way of doing measurements. Next week people of a famous shipyard comes to my house. We will talk about sound and vison for yachts. With Audyssey pro I can get a much higher level in sound than what is even possible without it. All the different parts of Audyssey Pro I can demonstrate. Roomcorrection is just 1/3 of the whole system. I let people here wehat it does. I can put them all out. My way of measurements has a lot more dynamics and resolution compared to Audyssey does. I measure at different places and hights. I even get people hear what my measurements do with the sound. This is not the acoustic part.

Just to be clear... My comments are only in response to Bo1972's characterization of the Avalon sonics. (I simply do not hear in my own system what he ascribes to them.) My comments are not intended as a comparison to the Revel speakers. A friend has Revel Studio Ultimas in his system and I find his system completely captivating -- I get sucked in every time I visit. I haven't been similarly captivated by the Salons but I've not heard them in well set up, either.

I've heard the Avalons in very limited audition only and in less than ideal setup in a very small and cramped room.

For sure, I can say they are a unique breed of sound with some unique charms. Lots of mid-range energy and a sound that was more lean than bloated was what I recall. I left with a favorable impression, though I would have to do more time listening to them under better circumstances in order to get a better feel. These were heard at JS audio in Bethesda, MD a few years back.

Avalons do have their charms, the airy imaging, clarity, and a similar character top to bottom.

But they absolutely have a sound, which is one of being leaner and colder than the Revels, and the OP wanted a comparison.

This "sound" can be tiring to many, though plenty of warm tubes in front of them can help.

This "sound" (as opposed to some speakers having very little of their own "sound") is likely a reason, or the reason, they don't make it to mastering studios, which the Revels have. This is also why I prefer the Salons. My experience has been that most folks who don't like Avalons don't like them for this exact same reason, the lean colder sound. However, my posts are not intended to be Avalon "slams". They are more refined and more seamless than the vast majority of speakers including those 2 big currently very popular brands that are so hot on the market right now.